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What a load of bollocks
Premier League's response to my email regarding United game...
I sent:
I note with interest that the Premier League has found Wolverhampton Wanderers in breach of regulations E20 and B13 for fielding a weakened team against Manchester United in December 2009.
Whilst I understand the reasons for this decision I fail to understand why you have applied it to Wolves now and not to other clubs previously. For example, Manchester United clearly played an under strength team against Hull City in an end of season match last year and yet no action was taken on that occasion. Can you please explain to me why you felt that Wolverhampton Wandereres merited action and Manchester United didn't. At the moment of course your decision simply confirms the suspicions amongst many that the "bigger" clubs can get away with things and the "smaller" clubs cannot.
I would very much appreciate your comments on this matter as I would like to understand the difference between the 2 situations.
Just recieved this:
Dear Daniel,
Thank you for your email.
I am sorry that you are disappointed by the Boards decision to charge Wolverhampton Wanderers following their breach of rules E.20 and B.13. The Premier League Board has issued Wolverhampton Wanderers FC with a suspended £25,000 fine after deciding that the team fielded in their League fixture against Manchester United on 15 December 2009 was not full strength and therefore in breach of Rule E.20. The Board also deemed that the Club had failed to fulfil its obligations to the League and other Clubs in the utmost good faith and was therefore in breach of Rule B.13.
The Board considered submissions from Wolverhampton Wanderers FC and had sympathy for the explanation submitted by the Club in relation to similar cases from previous seasons. However the Board ruled that this case could be differentiated from the other matches cited and that disciplinary action was warranted. I note you refer to the Hull v Man Utd match last season. Following rumours that they would make a large number of changes, the Club were reminded of the rules, however, they went on to win the match, therefore differentiating from the Wolves match.
We would like to assure you that the Board also wants to put Clubs on notice that any future Rule breach of this nature would be subject to a Disciplinary Commission.
We understand your frustration, as a loyal and passionate supporter, and we thank you for taking the time to contact us.
Kind regards,
Communications Team
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Biggest load of shite I have heard, so what about the result, they still broke the rule by playing a second string team and didn't get punished?the Club were reminded of the rules, however, they went on to win the match, therefore differentiating from the Wolves match.
What a load of bollocks
Surely the offence is "fielding" an under strength team. How it then performs on the field is immaterial as the offence has occurred as soon as the game kicks off.
You should have referred them to the Liverpool/Fulham game the year before - Liverpool lost that one, and it ended up saving Fulham's bacon....
Dam, you chose the wrong match you should highlighted the Liverpool match.Originally Posted by Dan
That was 2006/7, and Liverpool's team was more than acceptable.
Was it? Perhaps my memory's playing me false, but I thought there were 6 or 7 changes? Mind you, I don't pay so much attention to other teams' games, so I could well be wrong.
-----------------------------Reina----------------------------
Arbeloa------------Hyypiä--------------Paletta------------Insua
Pennant-----------Alonso--------------Sissoko------------Gonzalez
-------------------Bellamy-------------Fowler--------------------
Looks ok to me.
Come to think of it I'm sure Liverpool changed most of the squad? SSN showed it when they were bumming of us the next day.
This has been done, but it might look okay, but it is still weaker than the team that played the week before.
You're right, it doesn't look bad at all - but how many of them went on to play in the Champions League game that followed?
Big wow. Is that team capable of beating a Fulham team managed by Lawrie Sanchez? Yes.
That isn't the issue, the issue is a weaker team and it is a weaker team.
But by that criterion, Deutsch Wolf, Liverpool could have played their youth side....
The current "law" is unworkable, it means you can never ever rest a player or make a tactical change. That's why it never gets enforced. We haven't really been punished despite blatantly taking the piss rather than sticking in a couple of decent but not brilliant players, like Liverpool did.
They also turned out to be capable of losing. Would their first team have lost? Possibly, but less likely, because it would have been a stronger team, while this team was weaker.
I wanted Mick sacked for what he did, and I wasn't even there. Few fans of any team want them to turn up at OT with a weak team. I still think the league are wrong to single us out though.
End of the day United broke the law when the teams were submitted, result shouldn't mean anything, they played a weaker team, does the rule say if you win it doesn't matter? If so, whats the point of having the fucking rule in the first place.
It doesn't matter what happened before. We breached the rule(s) in the most blatant way possible and were pulled up for it. Now there is a precedent, other teams (and us) won't do the same thing. Good.
Well it's been hightly rumored Coyle is going to be fielding a weakend team vs Spurs, be very instresting if he does and see what happens..
Not really, as it's the FA Cup, and the Premier League have no jurisdiction over that.
Still throwing the game away to focus on us Saturday
What would you like the Premier League to do about it?
It'll be interesting only in relation to those in the media who held up Owen Coyle as an example for all to follow when he fielded a strong side against Arsenal that week, labelling him as a man who goes all out to win every game....
So how many changes can a manager make before he is in breach of the rules? I totally disagreed with MM's decision, it was quite ridiculous, but as manager he picks the team, and I think he knows he went a bit too far in utilising the squad. I await Boltons team selection tonight with interest. Though as that is an F.A. cup tie, it will be deemed ok.
Frank Munro, a Wolves legend.
Out of darkness cometh light, out of Scotland came Frank.
Didn't say I wanted the Premier League to do anything about it, just said it will be instresting to see if they get punished for throwing the game away.
By who?
The FA
Where is the FA's rule about "fielding a full strength team", or similar?
I would try and look for it but cant be arsed. There has got to be something after all this hype about it?
Shouldn't matter what competition it is in imo
The FA don't have a rule like that - they couldn't, really, as they don't govern the kind of competition where such a rule could apply. There's nothing technically against fielding a weak side in the FA Cup....
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