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Again, bollocks isn't it. "Staffordshire" FFS. I don't live anywhere near Stoke.
Same. Rates in Newcastle are through the roof apparently - but have been very steadily going down here, its not as though its even the same council area.
 

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I know said in jest @pacamac but the football for is another thing - if its done by ballot what if a Liverpool supporter living in tier 3 Manchester is picked.

Unless that supporter is consciencentious and refuses to travel then you're still having the opportunity for somebody to bring the virus in with them unless clubs announce they're excluding supporter postcodes from T3 areas from ticket ballots.

Going to Molineux with 2-4000 isn't even vaguely interesting to me, it'll be as shite and sterile as watching on TV.
 

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Just checked & case numbers here last week per 100,000 were down to 69! which is a 30% drop from the previous week which in themself were well below to UK national average anyway - why tier 2 is slightly unfathomable.
 

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Just checked & case numbers here last week per 100,000 were down to 69! which is a 30% drop from the previous week which in themself were well below to UK national average anyway - why tier 2 is slightly unfathomable.
That's crazy, they should publish the methodology behind the selctions - otherwise we'll have to assume its decided on who is able to whatsapp Johnson or Hancock.
 

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I can only guess the amount of Tier 2 up (what has Cornwall got on Boris?) is their attempt to get the R rate down to counter the expected rise when we can have a free for all between 23rd - 27th December
 

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What grates is that all lockdowns are there to do is to buy time. Well, fine. But that's now two where you've done FUCKING NOTHING.

You're just hurting people and none of the background work is being done. Everything is still broken.
 

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I know said in jest @pacamac but the football for is another thing - if its done by ballot what if a Liverpool supporter living in tier 3 Manchester is picked.

Unless that supporter is consciencentious and refuses to travel then you're still having the opportunity for somebody to bring the virus in with them unless clubs announce they're excluding supporter postcodes from T3 areas from ticket ballots.

Going to Molineux with 2-4000 isn't even vaguely interesting to me, it'll be as shite and sterile as watching on TV.
Good point, might be why Wolves were reminding people to update their info the other day though (not saying all clubs will do it). If chosen in a ballot but in a tier 3 area they might not even offer the ticket?
 

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That's crazy, they should publish the methodology behind the selctions - otherwise we'll have to assume its decided on who is able to whatsapp Johnson or Hancock.
Definitely need to publish the methodology behind it seems rather convenient that London (the whole of it too) has scrapped into tier 2 where most other cities tier 3.

Seems the areas are far bigger with lots of different councils banded together that weren't previously too.
 

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Going to Molineux with 2-4000 isn't even vaguely interesting to me, it'll be as shite and sterile as watching on TV.
Remember when the stewards went through a phase of trying to get everyone to sit down in the South Bank. It'd be like that, but you'd get thrown out for raising your voice to call Grealish a twat.
 

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Should have been split by district, rather than by county. Places landing in Tiers they dont need to be in
 

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Same. Rates in Newcastle are through the roof apparently - but have been very steadily going down here, its not as though its even the same council area.

Going down this week. Still high (and all focused in two places).
 

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Going down this week. Still high (and all focused in two places).
Yeah, might be moved down on the 16th. Unfortunately my youngest birthday is on the 8th, will need to try and come up with a convincing reason why he can't see anyone.
 

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Had to do that earlier this month, cancelled his tubing trip with his mates. He was obviously gutted but he knew why (impressive for a 6 yr old I thought), reading this thread his attitude to the virus and lockdown is a whole lot better than some on here.

I'd rather we were back to everybody in the same boat until we roll the vaccine's out for the vulnerable and mass testing a la Liverpool. But this daft tier system helps nobody.
 

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I'd rather we were back to everybody in the same boat until we roll the vaccine's out for the vulnerable and mass testing a la Liverpool. But this daft tier system helps nobody.
Would you feel like that if you ran a business that was closed down for Covid in an area that had very low rates though?

No the tiered/split approach has got to be the right one, might be shit for us stuck in areas where the rate of infections still high but why shouldn't they look to be getting parts of the economy where its safer to do so going.

Just wish they'd be a bit clearer and more logical on how they manage it.
 
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Would you feel like that if you ran a business that was closed down for Covid in an area that had very low rates though?

No the tiered/split approach has got to be the right one, might be shit for us stuck in areas where the rate of infections still high but why shouldn't they look to be getting parts of the economy where its safer to do so going.

Just wish they'd be a bit clearer and more logical on how they manage it.
No the tiered one is nonsense from what I can see. The social mobility of the population kills the tiered system stone dead.

It was always a nonsense and a sticking plaster on the abysmal track and trace shambles.
 

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No the tiered one is nonsense from what I can see. The social mobility of the population kills the tiered system stone dead.

It was always a nonsense and a sticking plaster on the abysmal track and trace shambles.
I'd disagree with tiers being nonsense. Cases vary by region so it makes sense to tackle cases by region.

Why impose restrictions on Liverpool if London is spiking, it wouldn't achieve anything.

Track and trace has been a shambles, even if it was effective it does have a capacity limit.

Any road, all sources of data suggest we're moving in the right direction. If we can keep that up then we'll be ok. The next milestone is the vaccine authorisation and on that date we should all be very happy