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Tredman

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On Bonnet - after you’ve signed up with the referral code add these two in the promotions section of the app:

50EVDRIVERSUK - half price on first charge

EVDRIVERSUK20 - £20 off a monthly sub
 

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2.2m/kW? That would cost me 13p per mile in electricity.

Currently In a 4.0L X6 Diesel getting 30ish mpg that’s what 26p per mile.

This doesn’t sound a massive saving considering the electric cars are probably more than double the inital outlay, and I could be cutting the efficiency gap even more if I bought a more efficient car and drove it more efficiently.

Don’t do a huge amount of miles anyway so probably not going to make the switch until the cost of them comes way down. Hopefully my house move goes through soon and can look at getting some solar panels which make it more of a no brainer by the sound of it.

How much are electrics to maintain? A BMW diesel doesn’t really break. Do electrics cars have reliability issues? Do they need any special maintenance?
 

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2.2m/kW? That would cost me 13p per mile in electricity.

Currently In a 4.0L X6 Diesel getting 30ish mpg that’s what 26p per mile.

This doesn’t sound a massive saving considering the electric cars are probably more than double the inital outlay, and I could be cutting the efficiency gap even more if I bought a more efficient car and drove it more efficiently.

Don’t do a huge amount of miles anyway so probably not going to make the switch until the cost of them comes way down. Hopefully my house move goes through soon and can look at getting some solar panels which make it more of a no brainer by the sound of it.

How much are electrics to maintain? A BMW diesel doesn’t really break. Do electrics cars have reliability issues? Do they need any special maintenance?
You need to get on an EV tarrif - off peak for me (23.30 to 05.30) is 7.5p per kWh. Get the washer etc on then and it’s even better.

Maintenance and servicing is negligible - Teslas don’t even have a service interval IIRC. Tax is free too.
 

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It's horses for courses, an EV is just not practicable for what I want out of a vehicle at present, but that's not everyone and there's plenty it does work for.

In terms of fuel even with what I was paying it works out cheaper. I'm on a pretty good rate with electric at home although not as good as the EV tariff (the wife works from home so she puts a pretty big demand on that during the day)

It's a hell of a lot better with the tax man.

I also assume that when I drive through brum on the m6 that the 60mph speed limit for air quality doesn't apply to me!
 

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I like the idea of going pure EV rather than PHEV, and it would work for me probably 90% of the time, but there are still a few too many niggles for me at the moment. Like my example from last week's holiday, would've had to sacrifice what we were doing at least once, probably two occasions to allow for getting home too, in order to charge up rather than a couple of minutes stop to get petrol. Even just at times with travelling for work I'll find myself having to stop off and get fuel which can be annoying when you've had a shit day and just want to get home, sitting waiting in a services for half an hour or something wouldn't appeal to me on those days.

I think next time round, 4 years away, it'll probably make a lot more sense. The numbers of them on the roads are skyrocketing so the infrastructure will have to go hand in hand with that popularity. Would still leave one stumbling block for me potentially though, nothing out there at the moment ticks the required boxes of being both desirable to me and affordable. Though that's not an EV exclusive issue, becoming far too difficult to find a car these days where you aren't massively reliant on a touchscreen.

In other living costs related news. Finally sorted out refixing our mortgage today and got the next 5 years lined up at a lower interest rate than when we started 5 years ago. Started talking to the bank before Christmas when there was first serious chatter about interest rates rising and they advised that as long as we changed the term it would be a new mortgage so they could hold the offer for 6 months. So we got the offer on that basis and held fire until now, less than a week from when our fixed term should be ending to minimise the early repayment charge.

Looking forward to this months statement for a change to see what our interest has dropped to and see how much it stands to save us over the 5 years compared to if we'd waited until now to get the offer.
 

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2.2m/kW? That would cost me 13p per mile in electricity.

Currently In a 4.0L X6 Diesel getting 30ish mpg that’s what 26p per mile.

This doesn’t sound a massive saving considering the electric cars are probably more than double the inital outlay, and I could be cutting the efficiency gap even more if I bought a more efficient car and drove it more efficiently.

Interesting comments. I’m quite open to an electric but it’s just not there yet for me. Currently driving 4 series Beamer GC getting 47/48mpg. Even at 2.00 p/litre that’s still only around 19p per mile. Being able to refill in 2 minutes and knock out 700 miles or so without thinking about where you have to stop for the next 2 minute refill is not something I’m ready to compromise on just yet. The new i4 series electric is an astronomical cost and still has a fairly poor real-world range. That would be a hell of an expenditure to upgrade, save a few ppm and take on the ball ache of electric too. Appreciate the need to go electric from an emissions sense but for the time being it’s a no from me.

All that said, the goal posts are moving very quickly. The Ulez expansion down here is hitting very hard and Mr Kahn has big plans to extend that across ALL of Greater London. There’s understandably huge support from the 50% of Londoners who don’t own cars, and strong support from the wealthier environmentally conscious motorists, but GL is a massive area and it’s going to hit the poorest with no other transport options the hardest and don’t think that’s a byproduct that should be ignored at all.

Interesting times ahead that will affect us all. No gain without pain they say. Sooner or later, coming to a town near you:

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Oof. Bad news for Tredman, Bonnet have just raised their prices!

Those with a faint heart look away now....

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A 15p rise for PAYG is a real shitter.
 

Tredman

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Oof. Bad news for Tredman, Bonnet have just raised their prices!

Those with a faint heart look away now....

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A 15p rise for PAYG is a real shitter.
Yeah, just woke up to that. Wounder - used it loads this week too.

£0.45 isn’t too bad (refill I’m on currently), certainly good compared to standard at Ionity etc.
 

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Yeah I haven't signed up to it yet, mainly as I'm not going anywhere for the next 2 weeks, but that is still pretty decent.

Lol at there 3mpkW, I bloody wish!!
 

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Probably not the right time say I got 3.5 m/kwh on a 300 miles trip this week then? :)

Get signed up ASAP so you get the cheap price and volume - any unused rolls over to the next month.
 

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Probably not the right time say I got 3.5 m/kwh on a 300 miles trip this week then? :)

Get signed up ASAP so you get the cheap price and volume - any unused rolls over to the next month.
Git!!

How slow were you going to get that?
 

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I've come up with my own solution to keep my fuel costs down....Massively reduced my driving. Done a trip to Nantwich and back on Tuesday this week that's a total of 26 miles. Won't be driving again until Tuesday.

I reckon the next time I need to fill up Diesel will be £2.75...

Might send this into one of those Take a Break type magazines
 
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Put ten quid of diesel in this afternoon. 5 litres and a dribble. But that will keep me going all week as I am barely using the car now.
 

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I'd never thought about this before but it makes perfect sense, especially in the current weather

I'm going to sound like a patronising twat here, but is this really "little known" really? It's pretty fucking obvious by the image on the button isn't it? Are there people who just don't look at these things and wonder!?
 

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£30 goes in very quickly
 

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I'm going to sound like a patronising twat here, but is this really "little known" really? It's pretty fucking obvious by the image on the button isn't it? Are there people who just don't look at these things and wonder!?
Knowing it's more efficient to cool recirculated air as opposed to drawing fresh air might not be as well know. If you knew that great, but there is no harm in letting others who might not know, know about it
 

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They should usually have a time switch else I think there’s a danger of CO build up in the car.
 

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I knew of the button, but I didn’t know it was related to efficiency. Always thought it was mainly to not suck polluted air into the car, or pollen or smells.
 
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