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lemonjelly

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I could've sworn I saw a news story/press release recently that said petrol price increases had worked through to forecourts & drivers would notice a levelling off. But prices are still increasing at almost 2p a day round here. That'll continue to feed into price increases in any other goods. It feels very much like a relentless tidal wave.
 

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After spending £165 on diesel yesterday I decided to cycle to work today (normally do 3x a week anyway, but going to make that 5), and ended up getting a puncture! So had to buy a new inner tube at lunch…

£1.95 at the big sainsburys. That is a shambles. And the Stourbridge road by the wombourne Island is an absolute joke (cause of my puncture). Ploughed fields are smoother.
 

Del Woppio

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199.99 at a shell garage in Aldridge ffs. It's fucking mental
 

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Says a lot that I was fairly happy with £1.85/l for unleaded yesterday.
 

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I could've sworn I saw a news story/press release recently that said petrol price increases had worked through to forecourts & drivers would notice a levelling off. But prices are still increasing at almost 2p a day round here. That'll continue to feed into price increases in any other goods. It feels very much like a relentless tidal wave.
But, but, capitalism works. It's the absolute best economic system...


For the wealthy. Not for the 99%.
 

Paul

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So the petrol station franchisees are the capitalist elite ?
 

Johnny75

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So the petrol station franchisees are the capitalist elite ?
Nope but the fuel suppliers are profiteering scum.

Price of oil isn't high yet fuel prices are. That's not how supply and demand works.

This is what happens when fuel prices are not capped, which they should've been, at £1.20

It's literally fuelling inflation at record levels.
 

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Nope but the fuel suppliers are profiteering scum.

Price of oil isn't high yet fuel prices are. That's not how supply and demand works.

This is what happens when fuel prices are not capped, which they should've been, at £1.20

It's literally fuelling inflation at record levels.
Absolutely, oil is nowhere near its peak price, hasn't been for ages, we're being ripped off.
 

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Latest estimates are that average energy bills up to £3.2k in October, and expected to go higher in January.
 

Del Woppio

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How the fuck are people expected to pay that for fucks sake. Outrageous
 

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Latest estimates are that average energy bills up to £3.2k in October, and expected to go higher in January.
That would be a rise of over 400% on our energy bill since March. Something has to be done, whats actually driving that amount of increase? Gotta be more than the war in Ukraine surely
 

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That would be a rise of over 400% on our energy bill since March. Something has to be done, whats actually driving that amount of increase? Gotta be more than the war in Ukraine surely

It's a real mystery
 

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I paid £85 p/m at the start of the year. £160 right now. By October it sounds like I'll be paying closer to £250.
 

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If things keep going the way they are with living costs rising constantly and benefits getting cut, there'll soon be riots.
 

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That would be a rise of over 400% on our energy bill since March. Something has to be done, whats actually driving that amount of increase? Gotta be more than the war in Ukraine surely

Suspect the quest for net-zero may be underpinning it (which is fair enough if you believe the use of fossil fuels is destroying the planet). Interesting times ahead if the focus is on consumption or rather the reduction in consumption. A future where a few carry on as normal in their private jets while the rest struggle to afford to heat their homes and eat. The infrastructure to provide sustainable energy is not in place and they see 2030 as the goal ? Are they crazy ? How is the electricity generated to store in the batteries for the Tesla's ?

Obvious answer to me is a form of redistribution of wealth (whether it be from individuals or the corporations) and that's just to fund the public sector. The obscenely rich have got richer over the past two years - obvious target. Won't happen. The insane amounts of money that pass from the public purse to corporations like Pfizer sum it all up but the profits of these corps fund the private pension funds? If they target those in the middle and I'm talking households with incomes of say £80-150K a year then this shit show will get worse.
 

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If things keep going the way they are with living costs rising constantly and benefits getting cut, there'll soon be riots.

Yeah, people set against each other. That's how it normally works. All credit to the Dutch farmers and the truckers in places like Canada who do it peacefully. If people ignored the selective crap they are fed through the media and stood together the craziness ends. I suspect it is well past that stage.
 

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Suspect the quest for net-zero may be underpinning it (which is fair enough if you believe the use of fossil fuels is destroying the planet). Interesting times ahead if the focus is on consumption or rather the reduction in consumption. A future where a few carry on as normal in their private jets while the rest struggle to afford to heat their homes and eat. The infrastructure to provide sustainable energy is not in place and they see 2030 as the goal ? Are they crazy ? How is the electricity generated to store in the batteries for the Tesla's ?

Obvious answer to me is a form of redistribution of wealth (whether it be from individuals or the corporations) and that's just to fund the public sector. The obscenely rich have got richer over the past two years - obvious target. Won't happen. The insane amounts of money that pass from the public purse to corporations like Pfizer sum it all up but the profits of these corps fund the private pension funds? If they target those in the middle and I'm talking households with incomes of say £80-150K a year then this shit show will get worse.
So many points to discuss here and so little of my life left in which to do it
 

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So many points to discuss here and so little of my life left in which to do it

In all seriousness I could probably have a better conversation with a pigeon than you - so please feel excused. No, honestly - it's fine.
 

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