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January 2022 Transfer Thread

Lycan

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Why is my relationship with Wolves relevant to the conversation? Or my internet browsing habits?

Have questions over my character being answered and now you're merely looking for another topic to pick a fight over?
It's always relevant. It's fucking weird.
 

MARKakaJIM

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It's always relevant. It's fucking weird.

I'm not convinced it is relevant. I doubt it's influenced the development of Vitinha, or any player for that matter, either positively or negatively.

Any other insults you want to get out of your system while you're here? Wouldn't want you to go home feeling like you hadn't got value.
 

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Not sure why you've felt the need to go so aggressive with the response but I'll have one more attempt at adult conversation before giving up.

Everyone seems to be making out like Vitinha was a no brainer signing, generally with the power of hindsight and this seasons form. I'm merely trying to offer the view that there are lot of variables in a players performance and development that mean it's far from being so clear cut.

Is Vitinha a better player now because he's getting more minutes or is he playing more minutes because he's become a better player over the summer? Is he in fact no better than he was last season but getting more minutes because the competition for places isn't as strong or he's simply a better fit for what that team needs? Maybe they've done better analysis of his game to identify areas for improvement, maybe they've got coaches who've found a better way to translate things to him and opened his mind to faults in his game?

There are too many variables to be definite, Wolves could have signed him back last month and there's no guarantee you'd get the same performance from his as Porto have so far this season.

Just seems like people want something to whinge against the club, Shi or whoever else again for a bit and he's flavour of the month.
My reply wasnt meant to be aggressive, just drawing attention to you saying factors other than playing time have an impact which is rather obvious. I completely understand why we didn’t sign him and see exactly the same issues with Trincao - he needs to play to develop and he could well be on the bench a lot, though he plays a position where subs get plenty of time. When we play two in CM substitute opportunities are less as Moutinho and Neves have been superb so Vitinha would have got nowhere near the time he has at Porto.
 

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Wasn't it you that got outed as being a meek little mouse by someone who knew you irl? Awfully agro on here, especially for someone who apparently doesn't even support this club. Wonder what's got you so wound up, too timid to vent your frustrations in real life?
This post makes me pretty uncomfortable to be honest. Really unpleasant and shouldn't be tolerated on the forum IMO.
 

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Loan fees are like renting something. You pay some money for the privilege of having it for a year. Unless it’s from a big club to a lower league where they may feel the player getting experience is better than any cash (and lower league clubs have no money), but Palace will definitely have paid for Connor Gallagher I’d imagine.

We agreed a fee for Willian Jose and Vitinha and paid a deposit. We then chose not to sign them so lost the deposit. Not really a penalty, just a rental fee, can’t expect to have another teams player for free
 

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haven't been on in a while, but just wanted to say... screw you mark or jim or whatever your name is, you big idiot!

now if you'll excuse me I'm gonna go back a few pages to see why mark needs to be insulted (I presume it's for something reasonable and just wanted to get ahead of the curve)
 

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A straight swap looks poor business unless Trincao steps up a level before the end of the season. Based on his performances to date it’s like getting £15m for Traore.
 

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If he continues as he has done for the last two games in which he's played, then he's made the step up already.

Big if, of course, but he has a remarkably high ceiling if we can just unlock him.

Different from Traore who is what he is.
 

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Agreed Wilf, my positive spin is we're swapping someone who may be able to play in Lage's system versus someone who never will. At the moment I'd have rather got the £20m we were after and spent it elsewhere though. Ironically we'll end up giving Trincao the wage Adama left for us not doing
 

Del Woppio

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Feel we've been mugged off there. Would rather have had the cash, but of course Barca have no cash.

Lets hope Trincao proves me wrong over the rest of the season.

Exactly this.

Also I hope we're not paying him £120k a week ffs. For that sort of money he'd need to be one of our best players, which looks an awfully long way away
 

YoungWolf

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I imagine money will still be exchanged for FFP purposes?

I do like Trincao. I think he's been unfortunate not to have scored by now (I know, some terrible finishing at times) but I do think he will 'come good' if we persist. I think he'd be a lot better next season too having had a year to experience Premier League football.
 

The Bear

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A straight swap looks poor business unless Trincao steps up a level before the end of the season. Based on his performances to date it’s like getting £15m for Traore.
We're essentially making a slight profit on what we paid for Adama of around £7m. That'll probably be offset by Trincao's wages though.

Ultimately we've got a player who fits Bruno’s style better and got decent money (£25) for a player that wanted away.
 
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