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Just how good were/was/is/are (Sports Edition)

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Same premise as the music/film etc thread. If you don't know, go and have a look. And contribute :)

1. Rivaldo

Rivaldo Vítor Barbosa Ferreira (born 19 April 1972), known as Rivaldo, is a Brazilian former professional footballer. He played mainly as an attacking midfielder but also as a second striker. Often considered one of the best players of his generation, Rivaldo is also regarded as one of the greatest of all time. Labelled a "bandy-legged genius" by The Guardian (due to being bowlegged), although he was predominantly left footed he was capable of playing on either flank, and was on occasion deployed as a wide midfielder or as a winger.

Rivaldo spent five years with Spanish club Barcelona, where he formed a successful partnership with Patrick Kluivert, and won the 1998 and 1999 Spanish La Liga championship and the 1998 Copa del Rey. With 130 goals for Barcelona he is the club's ninth highest goalscorer. His three goals against Valencia in June 2001 which qualified Barcelona for the Champions League, the last goal of which was a last minute 20-yard bicycle kick winner, is often ranked the greatest hat-trick ever.

From 1993 and 2003, Rivaldo played 74 matches and scored 35 goals for Brazil and is the seventh highest goalscorer. He helped Brazil reach the final of the 1998 FIFA World Cup, and won the 1999 Copa América where he was named player of the tournament. Rivaldo starred alongside Ronaldo and Ronaldinho in the 2002 FIFA World Cup winning team. Scoring in five of Brazil’s seven games at the tournament (including a feint that set up Ronaldo for the second goal in the final), Rivaldo was named in the FIFA World Cup All-Star Team in 2002 having also previously been selected in 1998.

One of the most skillful and creative players of his generation, Rivaldo was renowned for his bending free kicks, bicycle kicks, powerful ball striking from distance, and ability to both score and create goals. In 1999, he won the Ballon d'Or and was named FIFA World Player of the Year. In 2004, he was named by Pelé in the FIFA 100 list of the world's greatest living players. He is an inductee to the Brazilian Football Museum Hall of Fame.

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Phenomenal technique and total shithouse of a player.

I thought he was ace.
 
Rivaldo.
Knob

Cheating knob from the Suarez book of cheating knobs.Ronaldinho was better. And nicer.
 
Proper cock, magic to watch.
 
Amazing talent. Bit of a cunt.

Summed up in as few words as possible.
 
So cheating on the pitch is worse than not paying tax and forging passports?

If we are judging by tax dodges then we are in real trouble!

I met Ronaldinho and the rest of the Barcelona team by chance at Barcelona airport in 2003. Proper gent. Great with the supporters in the airport. The only one who was stand offish was Edgar Davids. Kluivert and Rijkaard fine too.
 
Rivaldo was magnificent to watch.

Kluivert should feature on here later too
 
Had a few misdemeanours with the law didn't he (Kluivert) ? I think he was involved in a car accident through speeding and was caught doing the same in the same place just a few weeks later.
 
2. Jonny Wilkinson

Jonathan Peter Wilkinson, CBE (born 25 May 1979) is an English former rugby union player. A fly-half, he played for Newcastle Falcons and Toulon and represented England and the British and Irish Lions. He is particularly known for scoring the winning drop goal in the 2003 Rugby World Cup Final and is widely acknowledged as one of the best rugby union players of all time.

He played club rugby for twelve seasons in the English Premiership with Newcastle Falcons. In 2009 he moved to Toulon, where he won two Heineken Cups and one Top 14 championship in five seasons.

Wilkinson won 91 caps for England. He was an integral member of the England squad which won the 2003 World Cup, scoring the winning drop goal in the last minute of extra time against Australia in the final. He came back from several injuries and was part of the England team which reached the final of the 2007 World Cup. He toured twice with the British and Irish Lions, in 2001 to Australia and 2005 to New Zealand, winning 6 caps.

He retired from rugby after the end of the 2013–14 season. In 2016, he was inducted into the World Rugby Hall of Fame. Wilkinson is currently a studio pundit for ITV Sport, working on their coverage of the Six Nations Championship, Rugby World Cup and other rugby events.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEGmGeoMosg
 
Did rivaldo do anything cuntish other than pretending to get a ball in the face?
 
Did rivaldo do anything cuntish other than pretending to get a ball in the face?

Not really as far as I remember (although being in the World Cup, everyone remembers it).

I loved watching him play though it is odd that he was effectively done when he was 30. Went from superstar to jobbing around shithouse leagues very quickly, and it wasn't like with Ronaldinho where you could see he evidently didn't give a shit about conditioning, or through injuries, or because he lost pace (never really relied on it in the first place).
 
Not really as far as I remember (although being in the World Cup, everyone remembers it).

I loved watching him play though it is odd that he was effectively done when he was 30. Went from superstar to jobbing around shithouse leagues very quickly, and it wasn't like with Ronaldinho where you could see he evidently didn't give a shit about conditioning, or through injuries, or because he lost pace (never really relied on it in the first place).

I remember him being ace but not really a shit house, well no more than other players, that world cup thing has really tainted memories of him.

Maybe he just lost interest in the game? *shrugs*
 
He think he still cared as he carried on playing past his 40th birthday, Barca obviously knew more than we did as they released him early from his contract and let him go to Milan for free. It didn't work out there at all and he never played at a serious top level again.

I knew when he was running through against us in 2002 that he'd score.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLG-XT4d2Cc

That bloody goal. So annoying. Go in 1-0 up and we'd have been sitting pretty, they hadn't done much until then. Conceding right on HT properly shifted the momentum.

Becks gets all the flak for it but Scholes is far worse in his contribution.
 
He think he still cared as he carried on playing past his 40th birthday, Barca obviously knew more than we did as they released him early from his contract and let him go to Milan for free. It didn't work out there at all and he never played at a serious top level again.

I knew when he was running through against us in 2002 that he'd score.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLG-XT4d2Cc

That bloody goal. So annoying. Go in 1-0 up and we'd have been sitting pretty, they hadn't done much until then. Conceding right on HT properly shifted the momentum.

Becks gets all the flak for it but Scholes is far worse in his contribution.

Two of the best players ever combining, sometimes these things just happen. Scholars did get caught out though

I had no idea Bolton were after him, this is on his wiki

Milan Edit
In June 2002, Van Gaal returned to manage Barcelona. Rivaldo was released from his contract, and signed a three-year deal with the Italian Serie A club Milan. With Milan, he won the Coppa Italia and the Champions League in the 2002–03 season. After leaving Milan, he briefly returned to Brazil, playing for Cruzeiro in Belo Horizonte.[20] He came close to signing for Bolton Wanderers in 2004, though Bolton eventually pulled out of the deal.[30][31][32
 
Hierro, Djorkaeff, Okocha, Jardel. That was their thing at the time (as we now know, they were building a house on sand)
 
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