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Keir Starmer at it again..

I wonder if Starmer will appeal a fine to show he believed he was innocent and then resign if he loses but if he won he could claim the moral high ground.

If he goes a I think a leadership of Burnham and Yvette Cooper would be quite appealing to many voters.
Burnham's not an MP though is he? That's not quickly solved.
 
Wakefield by election is due very soon I guess and it’s safe as houses.
 
Good speech but he must be really confident he’s not going to be fined otherwise he’ll look a bit silly
Not really. He’s then gone as he should be, falls on his sword and does serious damage to any other leader who doesn’t.
 
He grabs the moral high ground for his party even if it is at his personal expense. Something that Fat Alex wouldn't give a single shiny shit about as it is all about him and everything else is collateral damage.
 
Hmmm. It would appear that the source of the Starmer film was a recent graduate of Durham Uni who just happens to the son of a Breitbart writer who then passed it to fucking Lawrence Fox. And the Breitbart writer was an Oxford contemporary of a certain Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson.

How strange.
 
Not really. He’s then gone as he should be, falls on his sword and does serious damage to any other leader who doesn’t.
Yeah suppose so. My dad just said similar to me actually. Agree in principle but not sure enough people (who will vote for Johnson) care
 
Why? I'm absolutely certain that people like above exist, if they didn't the Tories wouldn't have anyone voting for them.

This is exactly the mental gymnastics that they have to do to justify voting Tory.

I didn't say they don't exist, I'm just skeptical about how genuine some of the calls LBC get are.
 
He grabs the moral high ground for his party even if it is at his personal expense. Something that Fat Alex wouldn't give a single shiny shit about as it is all about him and everything else is collateral damage.
It wont mean shit though, anyone who is currently voting Tory won't careless. Anyone who currently isnt voting Tory already knows what a shitbag Boris is.
 
The point is simple. He thinks he won't get a fine. He fully expects Alex to get at least one more.
 
Tories paper staff don't know which way to turn right now...gone from saying he must say he will resign if fined to how dare he undermine a police investigation by saying he will resign if fined, the man has no morals
 
Tories paper staff don't know which way to turn right now...gone from saying he must say he will resign if fined to how dare he undermine a police investigation by saying he will resign if fined, the man has no morals
And so is Owen Jones. Your enemies enemy is your friend
 
You can already see traditional tories turning though - look at the vote changes in the south, look at Paddy for another. He’ll keep the racists and loons, but he doesn’t have to lose many of his base to lose power.
 
You can already see traditional tories turning though - look at the vote changes in the south, look at Paddy for another. He’ll keep the racists and loons, but he doesn’t have to lose many of his base to lose power.
Is it a protest or a genuine change of intent though? People see local elections as a free hit, but revert to type when it comes to national ones. Fine to have a Liberal Councillor, not an MP if that leads to a Labour Government
 
Is it a protest or a genuine change of intent though? People see local elections as a free hit, but revert to type when it comes to national ones. Fine to have a Liberal Councillor, not an MP if that leads to a Labour Government
Which is why having an unthreatening leader like Starmer is useful.
 
I think for Labour to win an outright they need more than none threatening, they need someone Tory voters can embrace in Con/Lab marginals. He's not there yet. Not sure he has the charisma ever to be tbh, although he's probably enough to get a coalition with the Libs or SNP
 
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