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Palace 2-0 Wolves: Verdict Thread

Del Woppio

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When it comes to value, neither season ticket holders nor members (attending or otherwise) are winning.

Still makes me laugh than some soft sod was accusing people of 'stealing from the club' when we found a stream for a preseason friendly that the club were charging a fiver for.

Agree with everything deutsch has said above (barring the fact I'm not feeling awful about Sa. In fact other than signing RAN for £10m, it's pretty hard to think of anything the club has got unequivocally right in the last couple of years.
 

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This pisses me off more than it should…

I buy three season tickets and get no bobble hat or socks, just £18 (I think) admin fees. It’s a bugbear of mine that I won’t let go. Charge me an extra tenner per ticket so you don’t advertise that you’re taking the piss, especially as this years admin fees were spent asking me to use my plastic card from two seasons ago.

I can happily send you the hat,’if you’d like?

But seriously, I do get your point. I thought it would be a struggle getting tickets but seems to be quite a few available most games still
 

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I paid £9 for postage and I get to pay an admin fee on every ticket I purchase. Plus the membership fee is just another charge levied on top of getting tickets

Don't feel hard done to because you have a ST, they are treating us all like shit.
 

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Still makes me laugh than some soft sod was accusing people of 'stealing from the club' when we found a stream for a preseason friendly that the club were charging a fiver for.
In hindsight probably a poor judgment from myself. The club really shouldn’t be charging for a pre season friendly full stop.

They had my pants down taking £5 off me as I was too gullible/honest when it was pretty obvious they were just going to continually take the piss! They’ve shown their true colours for everyone to see now though.
 

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In hindsight probably a poor judgment from myself. The club really shouldn’t be charging for a pre season friendly full stop.

They had my pants down taking £5 off me as I was too gullible/honest when it was pretty obvious they were just going to continually take the piss! They’ve shown their true colours for everyone to see now though.
I couldn't even remember who it was, you should've kept shtum there mate!
 

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I'm not interested in the tat, just don't take the piss, either put it in the ticket cost or as they are where they are now just don't charge it at all. Before Paul says what about concert or theatre tickets, they have that charge, well I'm not emotionally invested in Ticketmaster or the NEC and Wolves aren't selling a 3rd party product, they own the full transaction.
Is there a financial reason they do the admin fee, some tax thing or something?
 

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Is there a financial reason they do the admin fee, some tax thing or something?
I would be stunned if Wolves the club maintain credit card information themselves. That would put an American business under a huge amount of pressure, and I can't imagine the UK being less strict in that way.

So one possibility is that the fee is used to cover the vendors that we use for payment processing and the like.
 

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It’ll be a transaction fee levied by the company that actually administer the process. No way is it £6 though and my point is I’d pay more, just envelopeit within the already extortionate cost
 

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Is there a financial reason they do the admin fee, some tax thing or something?
There's a charge by companies for using a credit card I believe, but I'm sure someone has posted before they won't let you pay in person in cash either
 

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There's a charge by companies for using a credit card I believe, but I'm sure someone has posted before they won't let you pay in person in cash either
There will be less obvious costs going on behind the scenes, as well, not just the bits the credit companies shave off the top of each transaction.

Working in the FS&P/Banking space has introduced me to an almost conspiratorial number of companies that operate behind the scenes of every electronic transaction that your average credit card holder will never have heard of.

EDIT: This is the second time in as many weeks that I fear I may have unintentionally condescended to you, Tony. Apologies.
 

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In hindsight probably a poor judgment from myself. The club really shouldn’t be charging for a pre season friendly full stop.

They had my pants down taking £5 off me as I was too gullible/honest when it was pretty obvious they were just going to continually take the piss! They’ve shown their true colours for everyone to see now though.
it's kinda fair enough though to have been this way, I know I certainly was. The transfer business for a couple of years has left a lot to be desired, but there's been a lot of good will with the results we've had under Nuno. It's a shame that instead of trying to capitalise on a really good opportunity they've gone for a safe approach but then it's not my money. There's been no need to just lie to us continually though. the FFP stuff they pretended was the reason for no net spend was just insulting.
 

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A transfer net spend of zero is a bit misleading in my eyes as it implies were balanced from a spending perspective. The club generates money, and we haven't spent any of the money the club has generated.

So we're not even spending money that the club itself has generated.

If we have a shite January window and then post big (£30m?) profits in the next accounts I think there'll be unrest.
 

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A transfer net spend of zero is a bit misleading in my eyes as it implies were balanced from a spending perspective. The club generates money, and we haven't spent any of the money the club has generated.

So we're not even spending money that the club itself has generated.

If we have a shite January window and then post big (£30m?) profits in the next accounts I think there'll be unrest.
The club does have overheads and operating costs, isn't the wage bill something like £90+ mill a year ?
 

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The club does have overheads and operating costs, isn't the wage bill something like £90+ mill a year ?
20 players on an average of £50k per week is £52m, so Jeff and Co are having a drink and a half if it's anywhere close to that
 

Del Woppio

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The club does have overheads and operating costs, isn't the wage bill something like £90+ mill a year ?
Which is pretty low.

We'll post a profit of around £50m in the next accounts I reckon, unless there's been a significant repayment of Fosun's loans. Unless (shudder) I've got my maths really wrong.
 

Del Woppio

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20 players on an average of £50k per week is £52m, so Jeff and Co are having a drink and a half if it's anywhere close to that
Top to bottom wage bill was about £95m in the last accounts
 
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