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REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...brexit-vote-eu-referendum-imf-oecd-uk-economy

Osborne’s belief that voters would be swayed by fears of recession meant Lagarde and Gurría popped up regularly during the campaign. In the event, the plan did not work. Those who voted to leave the EU appeared sceptical about the forecasts produced by the IMF and the OECD – and those from the Treasury and the Bank of England, for that matter.

That scepticism has looked increasingly justified in the months since the referendum. The first prediction to go awry was that the economy would plunge into instant recession. It didn’t.

When the economy showed signs of resilience, there was a second prediction: the unexpected strength was driven by consumer spending and a different picture would be painted when figures for investment came in. Figures for investment were published last week. It was up in the third quarter.

There has been another retreat to a new fallback position. Yes, the IMF and the OECD admit, we were taken by surprise by the strength of the economy in the months after the Brexit vote and we have been forced to revise up our growth forecasts for 2016. But, take it from us, the outlook for the UK is still grim. The downturn is coming – it is simply a matter of time.
 
If remain had won, it would have been exactly the same!

Not according to Farage before the result was known and as the result was so close he would have been absolutely justified in continuing to campaign to leave the EU.

There is nothing democratic in ignoring the wishes of so many people based on a referendum that most reasonable people accept was flawed by misrepresentation (from both sides).
 
Not according to Farage before the result was known and as the result was so close he would have been absolutely justified in continuing to campaign to leave the EU.

There is nothing democratic in ignoring the wishes of so many people based on a referendum that most reasonable people accept was flawed by misrepresentation (from both sides).

He might have wanted another referendum, but he wouldn't have got one and rightly so.

There is always misrepresentation in elections and referendums, unfortunate but true.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...brexit-vote-eu-referendum-imf-oecd-uk-economy

Osborne’s belief that voters would be swayed by fears of recession meant Lagarde and Gurría popped up regularly during the campaign. In the event, the plan did not work. Those who voted to leave the EU appeared sceptical about the forecasts produced by the IMF and the OECD – and those from the Treasury and the Bank of England, for that matter.

That scepticism has looked increasingly justified in the months since the referendum. The first prediction to go awry was that the economy would plunge into instant recession. It didn’t.

When the economy showed signs of resilience, there was a second prediction: the unexpected strength was driven by consumer spending and a different picture would be painted when figures for investment came in. Figures for investment were published last week. It was up in the third quarter.

There has been another retreat to a new fallback position. Yes, the IMF and the OECD admit, we were taken by surprise by the strength of the economy in the months after the Brexit vote and we have been forced to revise up our growth forecasts for 2016. But, take it from us, the outlook for the UK is still grim. The downturn is coming – it is simply a matter of time.

Indulge me, as I am confused; Have we left the EU without me noticing?
 
All those predictions were based on the then Prime Minister saying he would trigger A50 straight away.
 
In today's Welsh FMQs, David Rowlands (UKIP) believed that the improvements to the M4 could be met by the Irish government. Basically, Ireland will be able to access cash from the Trans European Highways fund and thus, Wales will be able to get funds from the EU post-Brexit.

Once the heckling had died down, the FM Carwyn Jones replied that he cannot go to another EU state to make up the shortfall that he himself campaigned to create.


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David Davis has admitted we may keep paying to secure market access. Wasn't a vote to leave supposed to axe contributions to Brussels?

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In unrelated news, David Davis wanted to leave Netflix but then secured a special deal where he pays them £7.49 a month in return for access to their content.
 
But what about the 350m quid a week for the NHS? We still get that, right?
 
But what about the 350m quid a week for the NHS? We still get that, right?

From what I remember the quote was " £350 million that could be spent on other things such as the NHS".
Obviously no right thinking politician would actually want to waste any more on the NHS than they could get away with. It's just a vote winner with the feeble minded. :)
 
Massive day in the Supreme Court today. Hopefully the Judges won't be swayed by the media rabble-rousing that took place after last months High Court decision.

For anyone who wants to watch live, there is a stream for Court 1 right here.
 
Very naughty of the attorney general to try and get involved over the weekend, telling the supreme court how to come to their decision.
 
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