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This stemmed from a discussion elsewhere with friends, but I tallied up the Premier league points over the last 5 years and felt I would share some here - on the off chance anyone else cares. Things of note, of the 30 teams to have been in the Prem during the last 5 years, Wolves are 16th in total points, despite now only being partway through our 3rd season, already ahead of Brighton now on their 4th, and with a good chance of catching or overtaking both Watford and Bournemouth - again both who have 4 seasons.

Of the sides then above us within 100 points, all bar Newcastle are in their 5th season. Then the second table is all the best total points by team during the same span, of which Wolves 59 puts us 9th. Leeds and Villa will continue to add to their totals obviously, but it's still a fairly impressive achievement. The reason I started this was friends who support other teams, suggesting that they were more impressed to see Wolves progress than potentially most Wolves fans are, based on the fact we do a lot of moaning! and don't seem to appreciate we have come into the Prem and immediately jumped over a lot of the established non elite, whilst beating the top 6 at a rate than none of them had ever matched.






Table in order of ranked 'best points totals per team' over the same time

1Man City100
2Liverpool99
3Chelsea93
4Spurs86
5Man Utd81
6Arsenal75
7Leicester62
8Everton61
9Wolves59
10Burnley54
11Sheff Utd54
12West Ham52
13Saints52
14Watford50
15Palace49
16Bournemouth46
17Newcastle45
18West Brom45
19Stoke44
20Brighton41
21Swansea41
22Huddersfield37
23Villa36
24Cardiff34
25Hull34
26Leeds32
27Middlesborough28
28Fulham26
29Sunderland24
30Norwich21

 
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Why didn't you just do it since we got promoted?
 
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Because it was part of a wider conversation about how Wolves look an established side despite not being so, and have put together the sort of seasons others in the prem never have. So wanted to include at least some pre Wolves seasons, but not too far.
 

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How come there's only 18 teams in the table of cumulative points?
 

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Good stuff mate, thanks. I'm gonna use that as a bit of a trivia question in my mates whatsapp group. I would of course credit you, but they'd probably think I'm mad when I start talking about a "big mean bunny"...
 

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I cut it off just after us. It's below just in case you did want to see it;

1Man City411
2Liverpool393
3Chelsea347
4Spurs338
5Man Utd330
6Arsenal308
7Everton257
8Leicester254
9Burnley230
10West Ham225
11Palace220
12Saints215
13Newcastle175
14Bournemouth169
15Watford165
16Wolves158
17Brighton158
18West Brom108
19Sheff Utd85
20Villa79
21Stoke77
22Swansea74
23Fulham62
24Huddersfield53
25Leeds43
26Cardiff34
27Hull34
28Middlesborough28
29Sunderland24
30Norwich21
They are calling me out on the Leeds points. They're on 32 points and haven't featured in the PL for the seasons prior to this so they're asking where the 43 has come from?
 
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Which is obviously correct of them to do! Someone asked me to put the places on elsewhere so it was easier to spot what position each team was in and it's auto-added it to the formula! Sorry about that, this is correct.

Man City410
Liverpool387
Chelsea343
Spurs329
Man Utd328
Arsenal298
Leicester251
Everton250
West Ham220
Burnley214
Palace206
Saints202
Bournemouth169
Watford165
Newcastle158
Wolves146
Brighton143
West Brom89
Stoke 77
Swansea74
Villa71
Sheff Utd65
Huddersfield53
Fulham44
Cardiff34
Hull34
Leeds32
Middlesborough28
Sunderland24
Norwich21
 

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Just seen a stat on BT in the build up to the City game regarding chances created from open play per 90 minutes which i thought was interesting.

Grealish - 2.96
KDB - 2.55
Bruno - 2.48
Rodrigo - 2.09
Mane - 1.88
Mahrez - 1.87
Adama - 1.86
Cancelo - 1.80
Foden - 1.79

Adama keeping good company there.
 

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Adama's metrics really aren't so different to last season, I was looking at it the other day. It's just some of those shots came off and some more of those crosses were headed in by Raul.

He is what he is, I personally like having someone with his dribbling ability, genuinely phenomenal, and with more options around him (ie. in a 4231, or inverted in the 343,)shock horror he looks less predictable and better all round.
 

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Yeah that's pretty much how i see it. I do think the fact that he seems to be able to play on the left coming inside will definitely help goals wise and us now seeming to want to get more bodies in the final third can only help him get more assists. We just need to be more clinical when we create those chances but i think that's been the case forever.
 

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i think he's also been told by Nuno to get into the box more. He's involved for corners, and has started the past 3-4 games laying off a short pass and moving into the box to support Jose.
 

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What impressed me about Adama in the Leeds game was his work ethic, he was getting involved and moving (whether the higher press was forcing him to be involved more I don't know, but it's worked) whereas when he was on the right we were treated to a five minute Adama cameo per game now on the left he is chasing ,harrying and just getting involved, it can only improve now we have eleven players on the pitch
 

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B63A8D60-AB37-4382-B416-5ACDF926C86F.pngInteresting article on The Athletic this morning. I’ve read “we have suffered without fans more than most”, but it turns out that’s not true. We’re actually 5th in the table in pre/post lockdown home form!
 

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It’s all pretty irrelevant. West Ham were dreadful, now aren’t dreadful. Don’t think that’s anything to do with fans.

Same as Liverpool, they were insane (and lucky, it was unsustainable). They’ve now had an injury crisis and their luck has dropped off.

Fans will have a little difference but nothing like that table tries to suggest for teams like Liverpool and West Ham.
 

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I don’t think you can completely dismiss the lack of fans, discussion.

Of course there was going to be some degree of movement with certain clubs, or the table would finish the same every year.
 

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I don’t think you can completely dismiss the lack of fans, discussion.

Of course there was going to be some degree of movement with certain clubs, or the table would finish the same every year.
Yeah I think the discussion of fans not at the stadium is relevant..liverpool wouldn´t have lost all these home games for example with the support from fans and the Kop..we would certainly gain too..interesting stats..
 
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