The Tennis Thread

[Johnny75]

There depends on your idea of reasonable, I don't think it's reasonable to expect someone to put something in their body that they don't want to in order to keep their hugely underpaid and overworked jobs. I've told my wife 100s of times she should fuck off from the NHS and go into the private sector where her wages and work life would be infinitely better and finally she's decided to do so, taking with her 12 years experience in a field that her trust finds ridiculously hard to recruit (been recruiting for a second speech therapist with her specialisms for nearly 18 months, 3 applications total)

There isn't a vaccine for hep C is there? Hep B is advised not mandatory, as is the flu jab.

I agree the marching isn't going to get what they want. If they had any sense they would just all book shifts then unanimously not turn up to them for the first hour. I'm pretty sure that would get the point across effectively. Realistically though, I imagine the government will climb down as a fully qualified and experienced nurse is not replaceable like a minimum wage care worker, not to mention the cost when they see how few people are taking nursing degrees now they have to pay and have to subsidise it fully again.

I think it is reasonable to want your health service workers to be vaccinated. To protect the patients they serve and to keep them safe

 

[Johnny75]

Happy, no but only cuz they are in hospital. They are likely to get it anyway we the testing in and segregation in hospitals is a joke regardless of if the member of staff treating them has it so that would have zero baring for me. I'd rather there be someone treating them than no one and that's the alternative as we can't just magic them out of thin air.

So you'd rather people be infected in hospital by the people caring for them?

That's some bizarre logic.

 

[WsWolf]

I think it is reasonable to want your health service workers to be vaccinated. To protect the patients they serve and to keep them safe

How many vaccines though? I have no reason to disbelieve the doctor who made Javid look a muppet and he reckoned you'd need one every 4/6 weeks to be effective.

We aren't really going to agree on the mandatory point abs as much as I know we could 100% go back and forth all night on the subject it's probably best left as a agreeing to disagree pal.

 

[WsWolf]

So you'd rather people be infected in hospital by the people caring for them?

That's some bizarre logic.

They are infected either way when the COVID tests don't come through in time so patients are put in normal bays and turn out 4 hours later to have it (daily ocurrance as the QE.) So it really makes no difference.

 

[Johnny75]

How many vaccines though? I have no reason to disbelieve the doctor who made Javid look a muppet and he reckoned you'd need one every 4/6 weeks to be effective.

We aren't really going to agree on the mandatory point abs as much as I know we could 100% go back and forth all night on the subject it's probably best left as a agreeing to disagree pal.

I ain't your pal.

You're right though, we'll never agree on this.

 

[WsWolf]

I ain't your pal.

What a bellend.

 

[BillyDee]

How many vaccines though? I have no reason to disbelieve the doctor who made Javid look a muppet and he reckoned you'd need one every 4/6 weeks to be effective.

Covid: Fact-checking the doctor who challenged the health secretary

An intensive-care doctor challenged the health secretary over mandatory vaccination - are his claims right?

www.bbc.co.uk

Maybe you should.

 

[WsWolf]

Covid: Fact-checking the doctor who challenged the health secretary

An intensive-care doctor challenged the health secretary over mandatory vaccination - are his claims right?

www.bbc.co.uk

Maybe you should.

Cheers, If you can't trust a doctor who can you trust.

 

[darlowolf64]

Cheers, If you can't trust a doctor who can you trust.

Boris?

 

[Johnny75]

What a bellend.

We've inherited a sad amount of pricks from the Mix it seems and you're just another.

This place used to be so much better but it's going to shit.

 

[Tony Towner]

Cheers, If you can't trust a doctor who can you trust.

Maybe a Dr. without an agenda?

 

[BillyDee]

Cheers, If you can't trust a doctor who can you trust.

Unfortunately I've had many doctors lie/try to gaslight me.

 

[WsWolf]

We've inherited a sad amount of pricks from the Mix it seems and you're just another.

This place used to be so much better but it's going to shit.

No idea what that even means, I think the only sad cunt is the only deliberately being a prick for no reason over something so daft.

So how about you just put me on ignore or alternatively if you are feeling particularly brave I'll be at the Fiery holes pub wv14 8ng in half an hour and I can give you an attitude readjustment in person.

 

[WolfMan]

How though? Having the vaccine is a personal choice for protection of the user. There allegedly* has been more data to show that the current vaccines offer little in the way of transmission prevention. It does offer protection from infection itself but if they test positive they won't be there to spread it anyway.

What is the vaccine effect on reducing transmission in the context of the SARS-CoV-2 delta variant?

COVID-19 vaccines that have obtained WHO emergency use listing appear to have high efficacy against severe disease and death, but lower efficacy against non-severe infections, and emerging evidence suggests that protection against non-severe disease declines faster following vaccination than...

www.thelancet.com

* Im not especially au fait with reading these sorts of reports so I can't actually be sure of what's gospel.

Most of them are qualified enough to walk into decent paid private sector roles where they'll probably get a better work experience and the end loser is the service users themselves who have more appointments cancelled and longer wait times. Not that it particularly affects me either way but not everyone has that luxury.

This is actually a very salient point - it's unarguable that it's the right thing to do to get the vaccine if you work in health care. Unfortunately a large minority just aren't going to have it, no matter the consequences. The question then surely has to be, in an already chronically understaffed system, does it cause more harm them not being there at all?

Why does a Tory government, ideologically opposed to the whole idea of a national health service, want to sack 10% of its workforce?. The narrative will change in the coming months/years to the NHS being unsustainable and not fit for purpose. It's such an obvious con trick - they've been running it down for years. As the saying goes, never let a good crisis go to waste!

 

[Tredman]

if you are feeling particularly brave I'll be at the Fiery holes pub wv14 8ng in half an hour and I can give you an attitude readjustment in person.

I’ve been in a bit of a funk today, you’ve cheered me up no end with a good laugh at that post.

 

[WolfMan]

No idea what that even means, I think the only sad cunt is the only deliberately being a prick for no reason over something so daft.

So how about you just put me on ignore or alternatively if you are feeling particularly brave I'll be at the Fiery holes pub wv14 8ng in half an hour and I can give you an attitude readjustment in person.

To be honest mate that's beyond the pale and you really should retract and apologize immediately.

 

[WsWolf]

To be honest mate that's beyond the pale and you really should retract and apologize immediately.

No, fuck him.

 

[leedswolf]

Cheers, If you can't trust a doctor who can you trust.

 

[Tony Towner]

Been a few years since we've had a proper offering out on here @Deutsch Wolf must make you all misty eyed

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Been a few years since we've had a proper offering out on here @Deutsch Wolf must make you all misty eyed

Simpler times...