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Toon Wolf

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To quote my late Uncle John, we have a team of donkeys led by an ass. This team is built in Mick's image, full of graft and very little craft and an almost criminal neglect of pace. Whether we go down or stay up (yeah, right) this team needs a thorough overhaul. Get rid of the workhorses that have failed and fill the team with racehorses. I honestly couldn't care less if we don't see many of this lot play for Wolves again, the only ones I would be sad to see leave are Fletcher and Jarvis. Most of the rest of them can go for me, they are the epitome of why we have failed so spectacularly this season. I want to see us bring a new breed of player into the club, players that are comfortable on the ball, even under pressure, I want to see pace throughout the side and I want to see players who are intelligent footballers, who don't panic and hoof the ball forward when they are challenged.

And don't tell me those players are hard to find, Swansea have built a team of them with far less resources than Wolves have available. Let's build a team in the Championship that can perform in the Premier League. It is possible. Just not with the archaic footballing philosophy that we have had for the last 3 years.
 

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To do that we need to get a new manager and clear out the coaching team as well. We have to change the football philosophy at the club in order to play in the style that you are calling for.

It is time for a rebuild, and we need to be getting wheels in motion now so that we don't waste half the summer completing the first part of the job.
 

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Agreed, the right manager is the first part of the process.

Nigel Adkins
Gus Poyet
Brian McDermott

Do whatever it takes, pay whatever it takes to get one of these men in.
 

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I agree (shock horror) the McCarthy era is over, gone, i don't want to keep talking about it, it's history.

It's time for a clean sheet, new Manager, new Players, new style of playing.

This must start on May 14th with the Club thanking Terry Connor for his service and wishing him well for the future.
 

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I agree (shock horror) the McCarthy era is over, gone, i don't want to keep talking about it, it's history.

It's time for a clean sheet, new Manager, new Players, new style of playing.

This must start on May 14th with the Club thanking Terry Connor for his service and wishing him well for the future.

I agree with sentences 2 and 3 Rovert47, but the trouble with the first line is that we can't ignore it because we still have to witness 2 more months of Mick's footballing legacy.
 

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Another part of the problem is that we don't actually know what division we will be in yet. Now, I don't think it is a great leap of faith to assume it will be the championship and having gone down with a whimper, but that isn't certain yet. My concern is that any approach to targets may wait until our fate is known and that will result in lost time in the summer.

Equally, McDermott and Adkins don't know what division they will be in yet, so they will probably wait until the end of the season even if vast funds are promised before thinking about discussing any move.
 

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Again, you are right. But we have time now to plan for a variety of options and have that plan ready to go as soon as we know the final situation. The old cliche of 'failing to prepare is preparing to fail' is a cliche for a reason...
 

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We kid ourselves if we believe that 'tapping up' does not go on, that's where the two M's cocked up with the McCarthy sacking, they should have had his replacement in place, they need to start the 'tapping up' process now for Terry Connors replacement.
 

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Agreed, the right manager is the first part of the process.

Nigel Adkins
Gus Poyet
Brian McDermott

Do whatever it takes, pay whatever it takes to get one of these men in.

As much as I've wanted Gus Poyet, the amount of times I've heard him in the press saying 'If Chelsea or Spurs came then blah blah blah' I think I've changed my mind.
 

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I agree with both of you. We need a list of targets for both scenarios and we need to start putting feelers out now. Such contact can then be firmed up once things look more certain.

Equally, bizarre as this may sound, we have to view our situation as an opportunity. It is an opportunity to put right the errors of the previous regime. Wonderful as most of the time with Mick at the helm was, it was not without major faults, especially in playing style which was sacrificed for work rate and team spirit, with the unfortunate result that there was nothing to fall back on when work rate and team spirit were eroded. Lets get some players with real pace and skill through the door and use this time to change our playing style and become exciting to watch.
 

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Good post Toon.

I was a McCarthy-ite and up until before Xmas I genuinely believed we would turn it around this season and he would keep us up again. Now I'm at the point where I'm completely disillusioned with our club from top top bottom. It's at the point where I had a ticket for yesterday, didn't go, and I'm glad that I didn't.

I would happily finish the season now, accept our fate, and start again.

I would love Adkins but can see Hughton as a more likely candidate should Blouse fail to go up.
 

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Eddie Howe could be a good choice, having lost his Mother then dealing with a situation at his club with the Chairman seriously ill, he just might require a fresh challenge.
Very young manager who seems very capable and does seem to have recruited well for Burnley.
 

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To quote my late Uncle John, we have a team of donkeys led by an ass. This team is built in Mick's image, full of graft and very little craft and an almost criminal neglect of pace. Whether we go down or stay up (yeah, right) this team needs a thorough overhaul. Get rid of the workhorses that have failed and fill the team with racehorses. I honestly couldn't care less if we don't see many of this lot play for Wolves again, the only ones I would be sad to see leave are Fletcher and Jarvis. Most of the rest of them can go for me, they are the epitome of why we have failed so spectacularly this season. I want to see us bring a new breed of player into the club, players that are comfortable on the ball, even under pressure, I want to see pace throughout the side and I want to see players who are intelligent footballers, who don't panic and hoof the ball forward when they are challenged.

And don't tell me those players are hard to find, Swansea have built a team of them with far less resources than Wolves have available. Let's build a team in the Championship that can perform in the Premier League. It is possible. Just not with the archaic footballing philosophy that we have had for the last 3 years.

Well said sir !
 
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TC should be replaced now with ANY other available Manager, regardless of their previous success or failures. This will enable the club to establish whether any of the current squad can adapt to change and fresh ideas in tactics and on the training ground giving the Summers new appointment a head start in the clear out.

By continuing with Connor, the players, playing style and attitude is exactly the same (if not worse) than under Mick. As a massive McCarthy fan I agree that his time had run out, it's just criminal that his ultimately failing philosophies remain with TC.
We do have some decent "footballers", both with their heads and feet, in the squad - it's just that they aren't or aren't being allowed, to express it.
 

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If Steve Morgan is the kind of owner that I think he is - one with an eye on the long term first and the short term second - then I would hope that these are exactly the things he has in mind.

It would be poor business sense to invest in the physical facilities of the new academy/training grounds but not the staff to go with it. Across Europe, up and down the leagues, there is a clear pattern emerging where those teams which have a unified approach to coaching at all ages seem to be the most stable. This isn't just Barcelona, but teams like Swansea who can punch above their (relative) weight by being very focused and consistent in their ways of building teams.

We need to concentrate just as much on scouting and coaching as we do a manager and immediate signings. More so, in fact. It's going to be slow but the dividends it could pay in five, ten, twenty years' time would be worth it.
 

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good post Toon, agree with you we need to completely rebuild the team and change our style of play.
 

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Eddie Howe could be a good choice, having lost his Mother then dealing with a situation at his club with the Chairman seriously ill, he just might require a fresh challenge.
Very young manager who seems very capable and does seem to have recruited well for Burnley.

Agreed. He made a slow start but he seems to be doing a pretty decent job there.

Sean O'Driscoll, Eddie Howe or Dougie Freedman would do for me. A reputation for playing good football should be the prime consideration above all others which rules out Mr Bruce.

I disagree that we need major surgery on the playing side though. I'd be very happy with this team in the Championship:-

De Vries
Foley Stearman AN other AN Other
Kightly Henry O'Hara Hammill
SEB Doyle

CB and a LB definite priority and maybe a winger too but we'll also have Doherty, Baath, Davis, Forde and possibly Ismail to call on too. We'll also have a shit load of wedge to spend should we need to. Managing Wolves in the Championship next season will be a fantastic opportunity for someone.
 

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I'm not sure Hennessey will actually go. Equally, I am not convinced that Jarvis would be sold unless he actively pushed for a move. The only player I am definitely resigned to losing is Fletcher, sadly. Hopefully we can cut our losses on Johnson and get a decent centre back in.
 

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The frustrating thing with the first post is that I genuinely believe that we don't need to do that in order to become a semi-successful club, at least in terms of staying in this division.

All we needed was a clean sweep of the management on the football side, a new bloke to come in with fresh ideas and a different ethos to get the players shaken up a little bit and pulled out of the rut hat they have got themselves into.

Instead we had reluctant continuity with a guy every single player has seen and worked with every day since they joined the club. It's no wonder nothing has changed.

Instead of a new manager bounce we got a new manager splat.
 

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I would agree that we don't need a complete over hall of the squad
 
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