- May 23, 2021
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Wasn't sure if you meant the bit about Zelensky giving the Right Sector leader the Hero Of Ukraine award.The whole thing you posted a link to. Both of the authors have done work for RT which makes me immediately suspicious of anything they write.
That's confirmed here:
Ukraine’s newly decorated war hero remains troubled by an ill-chosen remark concerning the bones in the cage of his unit’s pet wolf. By rights Dmytro Kotsyubayl
As for the rest of it, there's quite a lot of information in there. Think it'd be hard to find a single source that corroborates all of it. There's plenty of links included in the article itself to "reliable" news organisations such as Reuters etc. Is there a specific claim in it that you think is untrue?
What Putin is doing is absolutely horrendous and unforgivable. All I was trying to say is that the situation is complex and I don't trust our leaders not royally fuck it up even more. Our own country is pretty fucking dysfunctional thanks to them.
The hubris of them thinking they can effectively intervene in a foreign war they don't understand - and not make it many times worse, is depressing but predictable, based on what's happened in the past.
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if in 15-20 years, the same leaders are telling us we need to go to war to defeat the Nazis in Ukraine, the fact we helped arm them in the first place won't matter. The same thing happened in Afghanistan with the Taliban. In my lifetime, the interventions we've made for what were portrayed to to be morally justifiable reasons, have led to massively more death, destruction and instability in the world, not less. We caused a quarter of a million civilians deaths in Iraq pursuing an illegal war built on total lies.
It's not just our leaders competence I've got no faith in, I don't trust their motivations either. Their actions in cosying up to Saudia Arabia, a dictatorship that's caused the deaths of a quarter of a million people in the Yemen and still crucifies people, tells me more about their true feelings about democracy and freedom than their public pronouncements ever will. I just don't buy their moralising bullshit for one second.
Everything we're doing now, I only think it'll end up prolonging the bloodshed and destruction, and potentially lead to us all getting vaporised in a nuclear apocalypse. Appreciate I'm probably in a minority though, at least Pogo the racist agrees with me