Wolves 0-1 Villa: Verdict Thread

[The Bear]

It's not just interpretation either. There's no consistency from one game to the next, particularly if it involves a "Big 6" club.

The Fulham handball was given, yet De Bruyne did the exact same thing against Leicester and got away with it.

 

[Paul]

I don't think anyone is disputing the inconsistency ,that is glaringly obvious.

 

[The Bear]

But that's exactly what VAR is supposed to even out. It's clearly not being used correctly by the ref's in charge, either due to incompetence or unconscious bias. They need removing from it and having an independent body making those decisions above their heads, and answerable only to the PL.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

That's not really what people were complaining about last night though, that situation still exists going back to traditional referees making real time decisions on the field, they'll all interpret the rules/situations differently and make different decisions from game to game. VAR isn't creating extra controversy above and beyond that, it's just taking a hell of a lot longer to make the same inconsistent decisions despite an increased ability to review the incident.

The idea that it creates extra talking points seems borderline farcical to me, the events on the pitch are the talking points, not the means of judging them.

 

[Tony Towner]

The idea that it creates extra talking points seems borderline farcical to me, the events on the pitch are the talking points, not the means of judging them.

Of course it does. Before VAR the Kilman handball isn't a talking point because everyone knows its not a penalty. VAR makes it one.

Toenail offsides weren't discussed because people didn't consider them to be offside in the spirit of the game

 

[Johnny75]

Of course it does. Before VAR the Kilman handball isn't a talking point because everyone knows its not a penalty. VAR makes it one

But that's not true, penalties were/ were not given controversially for that before VAR.

It doesn't create another taking point it just changed the focus onto VAR rather than the referee alone.

 

[Tony Towner]

But that's not true, penalties were given for that before VAR, just as they weren't.

It doesn't create another taking point it just changed the focus onto VAR rather than the referee alone.

Not true, hence the 50% increase in penalties in the PL as of a few weeks ago because of a hamfisted attempt to make the law consistent, which then is ref'd inconsistently. You can't rewrite history, those additional handballs or penalties like the Robertson one on Welbeck wouldn't have been discussed pre VAR. Neither would disallowed goals like Bamford's or Neto's at Anfield last year. VAR is disallowing way more goals for being offside than obvious incorrect flags previously, so has to therefore be creating more talking points.

On a completely unrelated point. Having to view the forum in private browsing is beginning to piss me off, as the phone doesn't spellcheck. Means you have to read every post a couple of times and amend

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Of course it does. Before VAR the Kilman handball isn't a talking point because everyone knows its not a penalty. VAR makes it one.

Toenail offsides weren't discussed because people didn't consider them to be offside in the spirit of the game

Those sort of incidents have been given as penalties before VAR, not as frequently granted but it wouldn't be like it was the first time you'd ever seen a referee make that call in real time either.

It's a talking point for Wolves fans because the penalty has gone against them, that's true whether it's been awarded by VAR or the on field referee, if it hadn't been given then it's a talking point for Leicester fans all the same as they'd have seen countless replays of the ball striking a defenders arms in the box and plenty would view that as being worth of a penalty. It's largely irrelevant what decision the referee makes in that situation, and whether or not it's made on the field or in an office somewhere, the basic fact of it hitting someone's arm in the box is going to raise a talking point for the side that feels most aggrieved by the way it plays out.

 

[BeaverWolf]

He is central striker. He has no goals. That’s about it in a nutshell. Saiss has more goals than him

He will score given some decent service.

 

[Dinowolf]

T.P.F.K.A.C said:
He is central striker. He has no goals. That’s about it in a nutshell. Saiss has more goals than him

Stats can be misleading
e.g. Maguire has had more shots than Aubameyang so far this season.