Wolves 2-3 West Brom: Verdict Thread

[redvictor]

If he was that player he wouldn’t be with us.

Fair point. Hopefully we get it out of him before anyone else.

 

[redvictor]

Better he draws 3 players out wide than into the centre then.

Why? He could pass to Semedo and then he could hit the Waterloo road..

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Why? He could pass to Semedo and then he could hit the Waterloo road..

You spot the flaw in my plan dammit

 

[Paul]

He draws 3 players every match! Agreed if his brain was a little more switched he'd pass and go, but the guy is the most marked player we have.

He can draw as many players as he likes we never seem to benefit from that, how often are a couple of ours free when that happens ?
To be fair to him by the time we've bothered to get the ball to him the opposition have had time to get back, get organised, have a fag and a cup of tea and discuss defensive tactics with a Powerpoint presentation with a Q&A following.

 

[redvictor]

He can draw as many players as he likes we never seem to benefit from that, how often are a couple of ours free when that happens ?
To be fair to him by the time we've bothered to get the ball to him the opposition have had time to get back, get organised, have a fag and a cup of tea and discuss defensive tactics with a Powerpoint presentation with a Q&A following.

It's a good point well put! Either that or speedy has gone so quick no one has caught up with him. He needs to sit in a classroom watching videos of how he plays to make him think a bit. If that happened oh my god....

 

[redvictor]

To be fair Traore is still young enough to be coached. When he has the ball and he rips the arse of the full back instead of crossing it all the while just do what he did to the Brighton guy. We win penalties galore, or our goal scoring opportunities go up if he just picks the pass, like he was doing with Raul last season. Although having Donk to pass to just guarantees the ball hits Asda pretty much everytime...

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Pretty easy to load men onto one of the few attacking threats in the team when there's another 5 men back rooted to the halfway line, sort of gives the opposition a few spare defenders to play around with.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Pretty easy to load men onto one of the few attacking threats in the team when there's another 5 men back rooted to the halfway line, sort of gives the opposition a few spare defenders to play around with.

Precisely. Get more bodies going forward and suddenly putting extra men on Traore becomes a problem. Raul did amazingly well but strikers of less ability are going to struggle. It also doesn't help that the only other body is often Donk who is to finishing what a lump hammer is to heart surgery.

 

[YoungWolf]

Well, this is why Traore has looked better when we've played a number ten for me. Another player who he can combine with or create space for., with more attacking ability

 

[pacamac]

Pathetic from the players! I can take an unlucky derby defeat or even one when we are the 2nd best team but not a fucking gutless performance like we got Saturday the players should hang their heads in shame (not post silly fucking instagram posts 15 mins after full time).

Feel absolutely deflated that we've got the best team (on paper) of my lifetime and we still can't grasp beating them fuckers. Almost feels like I'd rather us be back to being a mid table championship club at least I'd know where I stood with em then! Its the (false) hope that kills ya!

Can't remember such a gutless performance in a derby game.

Blame Nuno? Not me personally the players have to shoulder the blame for this one. Although I didn't agree with how we set up it certainly seems like he's being hung out to dry by the mysterious Fosun!

Feel we need switch back to what we know (back 5) and get some points on the table (granted we'll lose some close games too) for the rest of the season and assess where we are in the summer (as its clear Fosun aren't spending in this window).

Some of you'll fucking moan (like you did at the start of the season when our form was 'ok') its boring but surely thats better than losing every week!

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Can't remember such a gutless performance in a derby game.

I can give you five worse without even thinking about it.

It wasn't guts or effort that was lacking, it was knowing how to defend.

 

[pacamac]

I can give you five worse without even thinking about it.

It wasn't guts or effort that was lacking, it was knowing how to defend.

Don't remember seeing one challenge, did we win a header all game? Nah they bottle'd it.

Defending was awful yes I agree but I'm talking more post going 3-2 down there was no real desire. Played (like we have donbe for ages) like it was a fucking friendly not the most important game of the season. Boly walking off laughing and joking, Gibbs White instagraming shite 15 mins at the end of the game nah thats attitude that and its clearly despite the press releases etc that they didn't get what it meant.

The body language of most the team in the second half was awful, like they either had no desire to win/draw that game or had no belief they could.

The shit's players did....that was the difference.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Let's get Stears back then for some proper pashun. At least he'd kick the post after totally fucking up.

It's nothing to do with desire or "knowing what it means".

 

[Premier Quality]

Not sure getting stroppy or kicking someone would have helped much. A bit more quality in the second half, or defending three yards further up the pitch would have gone a long way though.

 

[pacamac]

Not sure getting stroppy or kicking someone would have helped much. A bit more quality in the second half, or defending three yards further up the pitch would have gone a long way though.

Who said anything about kicking someone or being stroppy.

Actually TRYING to win the game might have helped.

How many headers we win in the 2nd half?
How many times did a Wolves player actually win a tackle in the 2nd half....or even fucking attempt one, probably count em on one hand. No desire gutless, bottled it most of em.

 

[Tredman]

Boly won plenty.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Problem solved, pretend it's 1989, steam into ludicrous challenges, beat your chest, shout a lot and we've got it sorted.

Or we could try playing football and defending properly.

Tough equation really.

 

[Paul]

Boly won plenty.

Leave it, he's seeing what he wants to see

 

[pacamac]

Problem solved, pretend it's 1989, steam into ludicrous challenges, beat your chest, shout a lot and we've got it sorted.

Or we could try playing football and defending properly.

Tough equation really.

Well obviously someones in a clever dick mood this morning trying to put words in my mouth.

I agree we should fucking TRY and play football we did neither.

You think we lost because Albion are the better team?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Well obviously someones in a clever dick mood this morning trying to put words in my mouth.

I agree we should fucking TRY and play football we did neither.

You think we lost because Albion are the better team?

No, I think we lost because we can't defend any kind of ball in from out wide at the moment and two players who should know much better made stupid challenges (and the ref cocked up).

I'm disagreeing with you that it was down to "bottle" or "passion". I totally disagree that we didn't try. I think that's deeply disrespectful to the players and the coaching staff.