womens world cup?

[Deutsch Wolf]

Isn't it just?

One decision which would have had no material effect on the goal being scored and a penalty that nobody can agree on. Can't believe we get this shit every fucking week soon.

Judge it when you get PL officials in charge.

 

[Kenny]

Judge it when you get PL officials in charge.

Not confident they will be any better with it

 

[YoungWolf]

At school I don't see the little ones playing as much as the boys. Tends to start around Y3. I've tried to give them a push with girls only football days and very slowly more and more of the 5 year olds are starting to join in. This may be unique to my school of course. I think a lot of girls are lost to the game during teenage years too. I know plenty of school teams at Primary level in Barnet and Haringey but it just peters out at Secondary. There are far more girls teams playing through to U18s now though than there were even 3-4 years ago so it will change eventually.

I sometimes work with a coach from London Bees and she reckons that technically the elite women are about on a par with L1 men.

In my experience working for different community trusts in different parts of the South this has been pretty similar to my experiences. It’s growing but the participation levels are still very different and even the motivations behind it are different (from adults perspectives).

The ability of the players is certainly improving and will continue to do so with the RTC programmes and the academies becoming better supported. An U15 girl at Arsenal comes and trains with Orient (boys) during half term and honestly she’s just as good as the majority in all aspects. Great attitude too.

I’m going to watch London Bees when I get the chance as I know the manager of the first team who has just joined them. I went to see one of their cup games last year at Barnet’s ground and enjoyed it.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

In my experience working for different community trusts in different parts of the South this has been pretty similar to my experiences. It’s growing but the participation levels are still very different and even the motivations behind it are different (from adults perspectives).

The ability of the players is certainly improving and will continue to do so with the RTC programmes and the academies becoming better supported. An U15 girl at Arsenal comes and trains with Orient (boys) during half term and honestly she’s just as good as the majority in all aspects. Great attitude too.

I’m going to watch London Bees when I get the chance as I know the manager of the first team who has just joined them. I went to see one of their cup games last year at Barnet’s ground and enjoyed it.

Louie - I respect your opinion on football.

But you look at that England team today and tell me one player is on a par with Connor Ronan technically.

He couldn't get in a League One team last season.

 

[YoungWolf]

Wait how is that relevant to anything I just said?

 

[t3ch]

Louie - I respect your opinion on football.

But you look at that England team today and tell me one player is on a par with Connor Ronan technically.

He couldn't get in a League One team last season.

ok man we get it jesus...

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Going back to TP's quoted statement from London Bees - "they are as good technically as L1 men"

 

[YoungWolf]

Again - the relevancy to what I said?

 

[Johnny75]

At school I don't see the little ones playing as much as the boys. Tends to start around Y3. I've tried to give them a push with girls only football days and very slowly more and more of the 5 year olds are starting to join in. This may be unique to my school of course. I think a lot of girls are lost to the game during teenage years too. I know plenty of school teams at Primary level in Barnet and Haringey but it just peters out at Secondary. There are far more girls teams playing through to U18s now though than there were even 3-4 years ago so it will change eventually.

I sometimes work with a coach from London Bees and she reckons that technically the elite women are about on a par with L1 men.

I agree with your teenage years theory but focusing on 5 year olds not playing seems a bit of a daft thing to worry about.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Sorry, it's in the same quote thread, I thought you were agreeing with that.

I take it you don't?

 

[YoungWolf]

I agree with your teenage years theory but focusing on 5 year olds not playing seems a bit of a daft thing to worry about.

The foundation phase is the most important for skill development I would argue

Sorry, it's in the same quote thread, I thought you were agreeing with that.

I take it you don't?

I find the comparisons fairly tedious (my point about the girl at Arsenal was more simply about how the standard was improving as I don’t coach girls anywhere near enough). Technically as good as League one? Probably not as I think league one is more technical and has more young PL academy players in on Loan or who have been released.

I watched a lot of the National league premier last season live last season and I would say the very elite players (ie. Lyon) technically are better than that. It s a horrible league where next to no football was played. Not just for personal reasons job wise but I was delighted orient managed to get out of the league.

 

[Johnny75]

I would disagree on the foundation phase (5-8?) for having a kick about. I would agree that technique is important at that age as is having fun but not overload.

Many different theories I know but I favour technique through play rather than repetition. And I can do that in the garden with the kids.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

It's 2013/14 since we played at League One level and we had Kevin McDonald and Ryan Mason facing off. Whatever you think of them, they are miles above this level. It's a silly statement.

I don't seek to make comparisons, I react to comparisons.

Would disagree on the Conference, some of the teams are very decent. The league below that then maybe.

 

[Templeton Peck]

In my experience working for different community trusts in different parts of the South this has been pretty similar to my experiences. It’s growing but the participation levels are still very different and even the motivations behind it are different (from adults perspectives).

The ability of the players is certainly improving and will continue to do so with the RTC programmes and the academies becoming better supported. An U15 girl at Arsenal comes and trains with Orient (boys) during half term and honestly she’s just as good as the majority in all aspects. Great attitude too.

I’m going to watch London Bees when I get the chance as I know the manager of the first team who has just joined them. I went to see one of their cup games last year at Barnet’s ground and enjoyed it.

Its a nice cheap afternoon out at Bees but the standard is pretty poor!

Adults motives are important. Most of the parents I know will push dance or drama for their girls ahead of football. Completely different for boys. I also find brothers sporting activities take priority over their sisters.

 

[YoungWolf]

I would disagree on the foundation phase (5-8?) for having a kick about. I would agree that technique is important at that age as is having fun but not overload.

Many different theories I know but I favour technique through play rather than repetition. And I can do that in the garden with the kids.

Oh I don’t necessarily disagree regarding the methods of coaching (or just simply playing) at that age I just mean it’s an important time (5 up to 11) to develop basic skills and habits that will give you a grounding for later on.

It's 2013/14 since we played at League One level and we had Kevin McDonald and Ryan Mason facing off. Whatever you think of them, they are miles above this level. It's a silly statement.

I don't seek to make comparisons, I react to comparisons.

Would disagree on the Conference, some of the teams are very decent. The league below that then maybe.

The conference is genuinely horrible. I go to watch games at any level just because I will genuinely watch any football at all because I’m sad like that but teams don’t set up to play. There’s a lot more money in it now but then teams like Fylde and Salford’s budgets were not on line with most of that level. I thought teams like Bath and Dulwich in the conference south actually attempted to play more “attractive” football.

 

[Templeton Peck]

I would disagree on the foundation phase (5-8?) for having a kick about. I would agree that technique is important at that age as is having fun but not overload.

Many different theories I know but I favour technique through play rather than repetition. And I can do that in the garden with the kids.

I'm only on about them playing - not drills or anything. The boys are ahead of the girls at a very early stage and that's simply due to football being a male thing.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

The conference is genuinely horrible. I go to watch games at any level just because I will genuinely watch any football at all because I’m sad like that but teams don’t set up to play. There’s a lot more money in it now but then teams like Fylde and Salford’s budgets were not on line with most of that level. I thought teams like Bath and Dulwich in the conference south actually attempted to play more “attractive” football.

That's the managers, isn't it. Not a question of technique, to them it's a zero sum game.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

I struggle with the comparison to men's football. I do see it as a completely different game. I think that conference or league below is a tidy estimate. But the women's game is faster, less technical and physical. So if that's the case, let women play in those leagues. Taylor played for Sussex at cricket. If you really want no gender issues then opportunities to play in men's leagues may help improve the standard.

Or you look at things like the Olympics and play a mixed team for each country. That could only help bring the sports closer.

And of course, now I posted that I have been thinking about it.

22 person sqaud
10 male 12 female
No more than 5 men on the pitch at any one time
roll on roll off substitutions

That could work!

 

[darlowolf64]

England 2-0 down after 22 minutes but score twice in a minute only for the 2nd goal to be VAR'd

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Awful first goal to concede too.