Confidence is everything and that is what we need mostly
"In Nuno we trust!!" UTW!
Cut the homophobic stuff out. Not acceptable.
There are only two man-made objects that can be seen from space.
1. The Great Wall of China
2. Low Hill at Christmas
Just seen the highlights. Another Doherty special for his showreel. I thought the chance in the first half which flicked off the bar he was horribly caught short too. He didn't seem to have much idea where his man was.
OK, I was only relaying his text.
Back on thread:
Are the Portuguese too 'lightweight' and are the rest of them mediocre championship players? Is it all zengas fault??
Discuss please.
BTW we're only a point behind super Mick McCarthy's Ipswich, he might be available soon. Shudder.
'I never predict anything and I never will'......Paul Gascoigne.
Are the Portugese lighweight? Not really. They are on the pitch to be the flair not be all out hard men. if you are expecting them to be diving into 40/60 challenges then you don't really get their game. They get stuck when they need to.
The Rest: Some are, some aren't but we knew that already. Some have upped their game under Walter.
Is it Zenga's fault? Today was. He was put a decent team out and then proceeded to play a formation that didn't suit them (Bod behind Dicko just took him out of the game for 45 mins)
I don't think Costa and Cav are lightweight at all - they are not the biggest players but definitely get stuck in.
When I've seen Tex he does seem a bit less keen on the physical side, but no more so than numerous other players who have been at wolves
The sad thing with this slump is that I think we do have the makings of a pretty decent team.
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Been completely out of the loop today so to come on here and see we have been so poor is really gutting. With the quality we have in our squad mistakes should be compensated for with goals and at the moment it clearly isn't happening. I am a big advocate for a basic 4-4-2 in this league and I think we have the players to play it now. I really have taken to Zenga but if we carry on this way there is only one result. Back to basics next game please Walt!!
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To be honest, when I've seen us (on TV admittedly) we've played some good football.
The first priority has to be not conceding first. Because once we are behind the belief seems to evaporate.
We have to bear in mind that we have some very young players in defence. Batth isn't a captain (at the moment) we need a steadying influence in the middle of the defence, Williamson would have been perfect. In his absence we will have to wait until the next window, but it must be a priority.
As I say there is a pattern and a big problem that we keep going behind, if we can get in front and make the opposition come onto us then I think we might give someone a beating.
I'd be worried about Bodvarssen, don't see him as a goalscorer from what I've seen. We need to get Dicko scoring. Personally I think we have to back Zenga until Christmas if not until the end of the season.
'I never predict anything and I never will'......Paul Gascoigne.
They aren't lightweight at all, they do get kicked a lot and quite often referees give them the square root of fuck all. As far as i'm concerned this is all Zenga's fault now as we have seen that when we play in a particular way we are hard to stop but we just don't do it until we need to and sometimes you just can't pick it up in the middle of the game. When we play the high pressing, high tempo game we look like the best team i've seen but far too often we are happy to sit off and then pass the ball about slowly at the back when we do have it. We are quite often still better than the other side or at least their equal but then we get hit with a goal like today.
We don't have the players to play 4-4-2 and today proved it as that is pretty much what we played, far too open in midfield both centrally and in wide areas that Leeds weren't good enough to exploit most of the time and both Bod and Dicko were awful. Go back to 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 and play a pressing game and high tempo from the start, a bit Liverpool light but with a centre forward and not a false 9.
Bod is a great player. He is as good a forward as we have had in some time.
There are only two man-made objects that can be seen from space.
1. The Great Wall of China
2. Low Hill at Christmas
'I never predict anything and I never will'......Paul Gascoigne.
He was played out of position though. Blame the bloody manager.
There are only two man-made objects that can be seen from space.
1. The Great Wall of China
2. Low Hill at Christmas
[QUOTE=Paddingtonwolf;971952]Costa has been kicked out of at least three games I can think of.[/
If you've spotted it, I'd say a few others have as well
If I was an opposition manager I'd be saying; he's the danger man, stand on him, get stuck into him, he doesn't like it.
'I never predict anything and I never will'......Paul Gascoigne.
Yup. Not wishing to be baldist, but maybe we should go for a manager with some hair...
There are only two man-made objects that can be seen from space.
1. The Great Wall of China
2. Low Hill at Christmas
[QUOTE=arklowolf;971954]He was kicked until he couldn't play on. No protection from referees and got the shit kicked out of him. Nothing to do with not liking it for goodness sake.
Lightweight portuguese. The other word you used. Doesn't like it. All far too fucking UKIP in here for my liking so I will leave it for the night.
There are only two man-made objects that can be seen from space.
1. The Great Wall of China
2. Low Hill at Christmas
after being excited about seeing a live game for the 1st time in about 12 months, that was unfortunately a bit of an anti climax.
There's definitely a change in culture, the walk to the ground was much more upbeat and atmospheric than anything for a few years to be fair. Supporters were generally in high spirits, and there was a fair amount of consensus that we had an attacking line up, though the bench looked weak, and lacking options (Cavaleiro aside).
The game had more excitement that last year too. However, as has been alluded to we looked like a collection of individuals, not a team. There's some talent there, but it isn't being utilised properly, and thus were ineffective. We played today with zero width, and no real plan, other than lump it towards Bodvarsson. Far too much long ball for a team that has players capable of passing the ball or running with it. And we were too easy to deal with - stick 2 on Bod, as every long ball, and every throw in was directed to him.
Neither team did enough to win really. The only chances Leeds had came from mistakes we made, and we failed to create any real opportunities. First half saw both teams have 1 clear opportunity each. Huge panic ensued when Dicko went down under a heavy challenge after 15 mins, but it was essentially a case of cancelling each other out. Leeds would've taken a point at the start, as they didn't really look to win the game in any seriousness.
Second half we were simply poor. Summed up by Doherty trying to sheild a slowing ball over a 15 yard space to the touchline, having had more than enough time to deal with it, resulting in them catching us out. Sadly, we never really looked like levvelling the scoreline.
Of the defence, Baath was fairly solid, and won most airborne balls. Silvio looked pretty good I thought. He may be a bit slow, but he stopped a few crosses coming in, and did one nice piece of skill to bring the ball out in the 2nd half. I've been a big fan of Hause, but he was poor today, as was Doherty.
Of the midfield 4 (it probably wasn't a 4, but it didn't really seem obvious at any point how we set up) We were far too narrow. Saiss generally looked good to me, couple of nice forward passes, and he got knocked about a bit. Texiera drifted in & out the game, when he's in, he's an asset, though always wants one touch too many. When he's out, it's like we're a man down. Costa was also in & out a lot, and he's the one player who can offer some width, but didn't really. Had a couple of decent efforts, but was roughed up a little too. Edwards was for me our best player, got involved going forward and defensively. Some good interceptions, and short passes. Sadly, the 4 of them didn;t gel or play as any form of unit, similar to the defence really.
Dicko/Bod, as mentioned, Dicko is (on todays showing only 70 % of the Dicko we know and love. This was my first sight of Bodvarsson. From reports, if we can get these 2 to click, we've a chance of scoring plenty. Well, we're a long way off on this viewing. Neither had a good game, though Bodvarsoon, like Costa was kicked left right and centre. Not sure either were 100% fit, and concerned that Gladon was their back up.
Ref - wasn't awful, but was inconsistent with a few decisions - bookings and fouls really. Seemed aware of some of Leeds time wasting though.
On the positive side, nice to see some friendly faces who it's been too long really, and also meet a few new ones - Jabba, Mrs Jabba, & I hadn't realised I was stood with kenny til it was too late...
Where was the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom!
One shot on target and their keeper didn't make a save in 90+ minutes. And Leeds were a bang average side, their manager described them as competitive which is hardly a glowing endorsement. First time I have seen Saiss and if he has any ability it is wasted playing so deep against a team who had little attacking intent. Playing Bod deep wasn't working, that was clear very quickly and there were other options available to Zenga to change things but he did nothing to change the game tactically.
I still think Zenga should be given until Christmas before any serious review of his position is made but he isn't doing himself any favours.
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