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    New Wolves manager Marcelo Gallardo?

    Unsubstantiated rumour knocking about that Fosun are set to appoint highly rated Argentine manager Marcelo Gallardo as new boss to replace Paul Lambert.

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    Someone has already had some fun on Wiki... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Gallardo
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    Certainly a nice fantasy to keep you warm on a Tuesday morning https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...rcelo-gallardo But that is all it is...
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    If only this was true.

    Up and coming exciting manager or another season of Thelwell and Lambert's mediocrity. Edwards would still find his way into the team though!
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    Lambert has certainly disappointed me overall, but Im not sure there is any truth to these rumours. Lambert should be given a summer spending window and time to field his players, but in saying that I cant believe how his inherited team packed their holibags after reaching safety in the league. Lamberts man management skills must be lacking if these guys downed tools so easily.

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    Or alternatively most of them are shit, and know they've got no future here anyway.

    We are not getting Gallardo, Lambert isn't going anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsch Wolf View Post
    Or alternatively most of them are $#@!, and know they've got no future here anyway.

    We are not getting Gallardo, Lambert isn't going anywhere.
    There is a string of managers who would have these players believing they could be league champions and would have them running through brick walls.
    If for example we had have got Sam Allardyce, like him or loathe him I believe we would have finished much higher in the league.

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    You're never going to get this lot pushing for the top six. We don't have a credible goalkeeper, we've gone an entire season and a half with no left back, we've got one centre half who's fit for purpose (and he's still learning), virtually zero footballing ability in midfield (bar Saiss, who's just too slow for this setup) and no steel in there either, and our strikers have 10 league goals between them this season.

    We might have finished marginally higher under someone else, BFS' modus operandi over the last two years - and he's done it well, to be fair to the gurning walrus - has been to sign new players in January and results have improved when they've bedded in. At both Sunderland and Palace he went on an appalling run when he only had the inherited players to work with, he actually plunged them deeper into a relegation fight before it turned around. Us signing a load of new players in January was never on the agenda due to our league position, no-one who's that good is going to sign for a Championship team that has zero chance of promotion at the halfway stage. Why would you, you're just committing yourself to 18 months minimum at this level. We got Weimann because he was nowhere near Derby's team and has worked with Lambert, we got Marshall because he was nearly out of contract, Blackburn are a shambles and he has worked with Lambert.
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    Yeah, this squad ain't anywhere near good enough. Absolute mess of a job since we got promoted from League 1 in terms of recruitment I think. We've spent a fair bit of money on absolute dross.

    I'm allowed to dream about Gallardo becoming Wolves manager though.

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    What's most shocking, is how Lambert has allowed the season to fall away, since we secured our safety.

    Not surprised in the slightest to see rumours of other Manager's being flung around already. It's going to be a long summer.

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    Where is the link/rumour from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinky View Post
    What's most shocking, is how Lambert has allowed the season to fall away, since we secured our safety.

    Not surprised in the slightest to see rumours of other Manager's being flung around already. It's going to be a long summer.
    I wouldn't necessarily say he's "allowed" it to happen. Since we beat Forest, three of our six games have been against Brighton, Huddersfield and Derby...they're just way better than us at the moment. For us to get anywhere near them, we need to have a very good day and moreover the opposition need to have a severe off day, as Leeds did.

    I wouldn't defend him wholesale and there are some small things he could have done differently. I'm baffled that Edwards plays every single minute of every game for a kick off. He definitely should have brought Wilson on earlier vs Brighton. Blackburn was unacceptable and by the sound of it Bristol City was in the same bracket. In general though, the U23s are being kept together as a team and I broadly support that strategy, it's important they play against the best next season so we should prioritise that rather than dead first team games. All of which means he's basically restricted to swapping in crap for crap. I can't stand so many of our first team squad, totally wank footballers and surprise surprise, we get wank football and wank results. And this has all occured when our best player by an absolute mile has been injured, lo and behold we've stopped scoring.

    The time to comprehensively judge him as a manager is not now. I actually don't think he gets enough credit for somehow coaxing a couple of good runs of form out of these losers.
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    Would be a different appointment but most telling about this rumour is the removal of Thelwell. Above all whether true or not it looks like we are in for substantial change at molineux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsch Wolf View Post
    The time to comprehensively judge him as a manager is not now. I actually don't think he gets enough credit for somehow coaxing a couple of good runs of form out of these losers.
    I agree with all your post but thought I'd quote this - the excellent run of form that we saw in March made is safe way before most of us thought we would be. This seems to have been forgotten. I don't understand why the negatives (and yep, there are plenty of things that PL hasn't got right or I've disagreed with) are brought up time and time again whereas the positives aren't. Nor are the very good reasons you state as to why the results have tailed off with nothing left to play for.

    Lambert still has a hell of a lot to prove to me, but common sense (and a modicum of patience) surely says that we need to wait until after the summer to judge him properly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langers View Post
    I agree with all your post but thought I'd quote this - the excellent run of form that we saw in March made is safe way before most of us thought we would be. This seems to have been forgotten. I don't understand why the negatives (and yep, there are plenty of things that PL hasn't got right or I've disagreed with) are brought up time and time again whereas the positives aren't. Nor are the very good reasons you state as to why the results have tailed off with nothing left to play for.

    Lambert still has a hell of a lot to prove to me, but common sense (and a modicum of patience) surely says that we need to wait until after the summer to judge him properly?
    The negatives are always going to outweigh the positives especially when there have been more of them. That good run of form was brilliant for us but it was the 2 away games that were the good performances and we've been putting those in all season. The 3 games we won at home weren't fantastic and more fans saw those games. The problem with those 5 games is that they were sandwiched between 6 games without a win and 4 losses out of 6.

    I get why people say we need to give him the summer but he should have got something more out of this squad imo, it's not as bad as it often looks and the away performances prove that. I know that we play a style more suited to away games but there's no reason why he shouldn't have found a better way to play at home. Personally if there's a better manager out there and it involves Thelwell going and the backroom staff too then i'm all for it.

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    Ah good - silly season on rumours has started even before the season ends this time.

    The players (even Bod) will get a rest at this time - the fans clearly aren't going to!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langers View Post
    I agree with all your post but thought I'd quote this - the excellent run of form that we saw in March made is safe way before most of us thought we would be. This seems to have been forgotten. I don't understand why the negatives (and yep, there are plenty of things that PL hasn't got right or I've disagreed with) are brought up time and time again whereas the positives aren't. Nor are the very good reasons you state as to why the results have tailed off with nothing left to play for.

    Lambert still has a hell of a lot to prove to me, but common sense (and a modicum of patience) surely says that we need to wait until after the summer to judge him properly?
    He wasn't brought in to make us safe though, he was brought in to try to make the play-offs. He put us in a position of going down where we were one point and one place from the relegation zone.

    He's done an average job at best and I don't understand the optimism regarding next season with him and Thelwell here. I have seen no discernible style and the constant playing of Edwards is baffling. I think we can judge a manager who has been here over half a season perfectly well by now. Look at Aaladyce and Silva if you want to see a manager make an immediate and defining impact. Lambert can't be described as having that. He did at Norwich but that looks like his Owen Coyle nadir rather than a Sam Aaladyce lasting impact.

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    BFS opened up with a run of 1-1-6 at Palace so I wouldn't call that an immediate impact...they weren't in the bottom three when he took over, hadn't been there since the second game of the season, it was he who put them there. Silva I'll grant you.

    I would dispute that playoffs was the aim when he came in, we were 19th on 17 points from 16 games, already nine points off the top six, we'd picked up two points from a possible 21 and the deficiencies in the squad were already quite obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langers View Post
    I agree with all your post but thought I'd quote this - the excellent run of form that we saw in March made is safe way before most of us thought we would be. This seems to have been forgotten. I don't understand why the negatives (and yep, there are plenty of things that PL hasn't got right or I've disagreed with) are brought up time and time again whereas the positives aren't. Nor are the very good reasons you state as to why the results have tailed off with nothing left to play for.

    Lambert still has a hell of a lot to prove to me, but common sense (and a modicum of patience) surely says that we need to wait until after the summer to judge him properly?
    The excellent run of form in March seems to be the exception, that's the thing that concerns me. It was sandwiched between two fucking appalling runs that seem more like the norm. Again, I can't look past him continuing to play players out of position, (Doherty, Edwards, Saville, Coady) when we have players on our books who can actually play in those positions.

    For what it's worth my opinion of Lambert hasn't changed from the first day he rolled up at Molineux. He's mediocre at best and I doubt he'll ever take us up.
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    FFS, Booz, this high horse you're on lately is bewildering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boozad View Post
    The excellent run of form in March seems to be the exception, that's the thing that concerns me. It was sandwiched between two fucking appalling runs that seem more like the norm.
    What about Dec/Jan? P12 W7 D2 L3.

    It's not his fault the club decided to stock midfield with an incredibly average (on a good day) bunch of chancers or have Doherty as our only available senior left back. Not much he could do to fix that in January, we did try to sign Ryan Haynes but it didn't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsch Wolf View Post
    BFS opened up with a run of 1-1-6 at Palace so I wouldn't call that an immediate impact...they weren't in the bottom three when he took over, hadn't been there since the second game of the season, it was he who put them there. Silva I'll grant you.

    I would dispute that playoffs was the aim when he came in, we were 19th on 17 points from 16 games, already nine points off the top six, we'd picked up two points from a possible 21 and the deficiencies in the squad were already quite obvious.
    I would agree with you on that he wasn't brought in for the play-offs but that's what Lambert said. I agree with Booz, I just don't see it with Lambert, just another average manager living off one good spell which was years ago now.

    I hope he proves me wrong next season (as I don't think we will replace him).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsch Wolf View Post
    What about Dec/Jan? P12 W7 D2 L3.

    It's not his fault the club decided to stock midfield with an incredibly average (on a good day) bunch of chancers or have Doherty as our only available senior left back. Not much he could do to fix that in January, we did try to sign Ryan Haynes but it didn't happen.
    But it IS his choice to play George Saville at left back, and Conor Coady at right back. And it's also his choice to play Dave Edwards every single minute of every single game.

    We could be here all day debating the positives/negatives of Paul Lambert's reign in charge of Wolves so far.

    I've been deeply disappointed. When we appointed him, he looked refreshed and ready to go. Bar a good run in March, it's been a massive disappointment and the way the season has trailed off has been alarming.

    Fosun need to decide whether to stick or twist. Stick and give him a full pre-season and summer to hit the ground running next season, or twist and go all guns blazing with a new manager at the helm; but running the risk of a repeat of Walter Zenga. Regardless of which way they go, I'm sure there will be people criticising their every move.

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    I'm far from convinced myself mate. I just think some of the criticism is either unfair or directed at the wrong people.

    I won't defend him on this; so far he has taken Edwards off in ONE game, against Villa when he got a whack on the head. He didn't start at Stoke (came on for the last 20 minutes) and he was banned for Lambert's first game at Preston. Otherwise he's played the full 90 of every single game. It's farcical especially when he talks about players needing a rest after loads of games in a short space of time, we're running a 31 year old into the ground when he isn't contributing anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinky View Post
    But it IS his choice to play George Saville at left back, and Conor Coady at right back.
    Iorfa doesn't look like much of an option at the moment on the right, Saville isn't really a downgrade on Doherty who's been there since December 2015, virtually unopposed.

    Who should he be picking? Given the U23s are off limits.

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    the way the season has trailed off has been alarming.
    Did you read my reply to your earlier post? That's why it's trailed off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinky View Post
    But it IS his choice to play George Saville at left back, and Conor Coady at right back. And it's also his choice to play Dave Edwards every single minute of every single game.

    We could be here all day debating the positives/negatives of Paul Lambert's reign in charge of Wolves so far.

    I've been deeply disappointed. When we appointed him, he looked refreshed and ready to go. Bar a good run in March, it's been a massive disappointment and the way the season has trailed off has been alarming.

    Fosun need to decide whether to stick or twist. Stick and give him a full pre-season and summer to hit the ground running next season, or twist and go all guns blazing with a new manager at the helm; but running the risk of a repeat of Walter Zenga. Regardless of which way they go, I'm sure there will be people criticising their every move.
    If we start September with Coady and Doherty as full backs, with Batth or Stearman (or both) alongside them with Edwards alongside Price or Saville in midfield, I'll be far from impressed. But this isn't his squad - the club obviously decided against spending big in January for reasons DW has already gone through, which make perfect sense.

    I don't think it's fair to say there haven't been any positives, and I also don't think it's fair to judge him until he's brought in some players over the summer. It's not been a success by any stretch of the imagination but I'm not writing him off yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langers View Post
    If we start September with Coady and Doherty as full backs, with Batth or Stearman (or both) alongside them with Edwards alongside Price or Saville in midfield, I'll be far from impressed. But this isn't his squad - the club obviously decided against spending big in January for reasons DW has already gone through, which make perfect sense.

    I don't think it's fair to say there haven't been any positives, and I also don't think it's fair to judge him until he's brought in some players over the summer. It's not been a success by any stretch of the imagination but I'm not writing him off yet.
    Nobody is saying there hasn't been any positives at all, just that the negatives possibly outweigh the positives that there have been since Lambert took over and i don't think that is an unreasonable conclusion to draw.

    I have massive reservations regarding his ability to shape a squad ready for promotion - there are far too many issues that need to be dealt with at Wolves first, I don't think we are 3 or 4 quality players away and there is only so much you can do in one window. I can bet we wont do as much business as some think as we simply aren't going to replace a massive bulk of the squad - some of the players you mentioned above will be here and will be involved next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsch Wolf View Post
    What about Dec/Jan? P12 W7 D2 L3.

    It's not his fault the club decided to stock midfield with an incredibly average (on a good day) bunch of chancers or have Doherty as our only available senior left back. Not much he could do to fix that in January, we did try to sign Ryan Haynes but it didn't happen.
    He couldn't do much to fix it in January, you're right there. But there just seems no rhythm or game plan with him, we were back to out-of-the-hat team selections again not so long ago, he'd bring Hause back who'd play well and then drop him, insisting on Dave at 10 and Weimann out wide, Saville on the left, a lack of decipherable tactics... It just seems like groundhog day to me.

    It still baffles me what happened to CBJ as well. There's no way on earth he's as bad as Doherty.
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    I for one am as excited as ever for the summer. I love transfer season.

    Sure, it could all come crashing down in September, but until then, all these rumors are so much fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan USA View Post
    I for one am as excited as ever for the summer. I love transfer season.

    Sure, it could all come crashing down in September, but until then, all these rumors are so much fun!

    I'm with you 100% here.

    Can't wait for Langers' biannual 'fuck the transfer window' post as well. Always a good read...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycan View Post
    I'm with you 100% here.

    Can't wait for Langers' biannual '$#@! the transfer window' post as well. Always a good read...
    I'm just waiting for us to get linked to the likes of AVB and Bernardo Silva again.
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