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    He's massive, the kind of forward we struggle against

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddingtonwolf View Post
    If you don't initially qualify it goes to a points system. You must hit 5 points for an appeal to be considered. Which isn't a guarantee it will be granted, but usually it will.

    Having played in the Champions League last season gets one of those points
    Value of the transfer needs to be in the third quartile of all transfer values into the premier league in the last twelve months to get another two points. £22m or so must be a good chance of that.

    So got to find the other two points

    And you get 3 points if the guy is going straight into the top 25% earners AT YOUR CLUB

    So if you want Carlos kickaball who won't get a permit now, then it seems, pay a big fee and stick him on high wages and you nail the 5pts needed.
    Interesting, thank you

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    According to Tim Vickery strong, powerful and quick but not a great finisher. Sounds a bit like Rondon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyWolves View Post
    He's massive, the kind of forward we struggle against
    Do we really struggle against them, though? Seems a bit of an overblown issue to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jd1981 View Post
    According to Tim Vickery strong, powerful and quick but not a great finisher. Sounds a bit like Rondon.
    Black player described as fast and strong shocker...
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    You can really be tedious sometimes Alan when you look for things that aren't there. Tim Vickery is a well respected commentator on South American football. If he says that's what his attributes are then it's because it's true, not because of some black trope

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    Tim Vickery didn't actually say anything of the sort, as he's never seen him play by his own admission on Twitter as he left Brazil as a teenager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Black player described as fast and strong shocker...
    My correction it was a re tweet from Brugge fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Towner View Post
    You can really be tedious sometimes Alan when you look for things that aren't there. Tim Vickery is a well respected commentator on South American football. If he says that's what his attributes are then it's because it's true, not because of some black trope
    Tedious is listening to seemingly every black player described as such. It's not an indictment of Vickery himself but rather of the subtle way race affects our perception of athletes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jd1981 View Post
    My correction it was a re tweet from Brugge fan.
    Hung myself out to dry there then, sorry Alan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Towner View Post
    Hung myself out to dry there then, sorry Alan
    No worries, mate. I'm well over such things, having dealt with the conversation of whether black men are intelligent enough to play NFL quarterback my whole life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    No worries, mate. I'm well over such things, having dealt with the conversation of whether black men are intelligent enough to play NFL quarterback my whole life.
    Think Russell Wilson's contract has probably put that one to bed. Patrick Mahomes in 3 years time will be the highest paid NFL player in history

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Towner View Post
    Think Russell Wilson's contract has probably put that one to bed. Patrick Mahomes in 3 years time will be the highest paid NFL player in history
    It's definitely gotten better but you still see it, especially at lower levels of the game. Questions about "decision making", "football IQ", and especially "character" all come up with black QBs much, much more often than white ones.

    Steve McNair and Donovan McNabb dealt with such questions for their entire careers, and they're both likely Hall of Famers.
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    I don't think Number 5 will get in the HOF. If he hasn't now it's unlikely with Ryan, Ben, Brady, Manningx2 coming along in the next few years. Ultimately as many Championship games as he went to he only went to one SB and is seen as choking in that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Do we really struggle against them, though? Seems a bit of an overblown issue to me.
    It is a bit overblown as the defence as a whole can deal with them fine - it's a particular weakness for Coady though I think.

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    West Ham confirm the cracking signing of Fornals. Absolute coup.
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    2 goals and 3 assists in 35 games as an attacking midfielder? Doesn't sound that great to me.
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    He's ace. Great signing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear View Post
    2 goals and 3 assists in 35 games as an attacking midfielder? Doesn't sound that great to me.
    He's an incredible player.
    This year, to save me from tears
    I'll give it to Hélder Costa

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    My favourite comment on him in his article in the guardian...

    “Any 23 year-old that can sneak into the Under-21 European Championship shows a level of flexibility we need at West Ham.”
    Feigning concern, a Labour pastime, makes you feel doubtful right from the start. The expression he pulls is exactly like last time, got to assume he just hasn't a brain!

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    I like Juan Mata on a personal level. Lovely, lovely guy. And he's been a quality footballer over his time in England. However it's apparent that he's in rapid decline. He's 31 now. Was never really a first choice player at United last season and it's not like he had much to beat to get in the team. He's always been a bit slow and a bit weak, but now he's a lot slow and a lot weak. And he can't really adapt his game.

    On £140k a week or so. You'd think United, needing a huge reshape, would take the opportunity to wave bye bye with his deal expiring this summer. Not like you're ever going to be able to sell him for a decent fee in the future. *Maybe* you'd give him a one year extension, good influence and all that, maybe good for the odd goal and then part company next summer when the rebuild is further down the line.

    Not United, oh no. Three year deal.

    Who the fuck is running their club, seriously. I'd be fuming at that (and then I'd remember that they'd also recently given new deals to Young, Rojo and Jones, as well as Alexis earning £350k a week for the next billion years for doing nothing, then wonder how much they'd paid three post-Fergie managers for failing, and probably explode)
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    I reckon they'd still get a fee that would outweigh any costs on this new deal. Teams are stupid. They'll chuck money at anything, especially if it's a "name" like Mata.
    Oh my god! Whitney's dead? How's Michael Jackson taking it?

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    They're committed to £22m over three years! Seems unlikely.

    Elsewhere, Hummels back to Dortmund.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsch Wolf View Post

    Elsewhere, Hummels back to Dortmund.
    1 Rangers fan out there is upset at this news

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    He's no finished, he's only 28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsch Wolf View Post
    He's no finished, he's only 28
    The brilliant radio rant about Scotland not picking Antti Niemi, utter gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsch Wolf View Post
    He's no finished, he's only 28

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    Not gunna lie I Googled Hummels thinking I was older than him/wtf
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    Andre Gomes to Everton for 25m Euro. A lot of money for a player who I don't think strengthens or weakens them either way - unless it's screamers against us obviously

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    He is a lovely luxury I guess.
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