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    What the actual fucking fuck????

    Good Lord above.
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    Once you cut through the crap they are pissed that he employed an agent to negotiate his deal and get market value, how very 1985.

    If they are genuinely on the brink of being sold the first thing the new owner should do is give him the job, gets the fans onside on day one.

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    There are holes in it everywhere. They openly admit that what they were offering wasn't market rate. But it's also apparently 50% more than any other manager employed under this regime. They've been in the Championship under Duchatelet so what on earth was he paying the various stooges he brought over from the lower divisions of the Belgian league?

    Why state that a sale is the main priority, but then advise that the club continues to lose money and hence lower the possibility of a sale?

    Pretty sure most managers have an agent, they were after all players beforehand on the whole?

    Who on earth openly says that they aren't going to appoint a manager?

    I've never worked out what Duchatelet wanted from Charlton, a very odd man.
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    Bowyer back at Charlton...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Towner View Post
    Bowyer back at Charlton...
    Jim White has done an interview with the Charlton Owner about the situation and the losses that owners make in the Championship

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    Just had Bowyer on as well.
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    Monk sacked.

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    FFS, Booz, this high horse you're on lately is bewildering.

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    You could be right. Shame the points deduction was last year.

    Surely Monk has been binned for attempting to get another job. Can't see any other reason really.
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    Seem to be taking it very well all things considered.
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    Sounds like had a row with the board over how to progress long-term, part of it was selling Jota to Villa which he was opposed to. Blues board is full of morons so not surprised. Might have a look at the relegation odds for them now.

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    Luis Enrique: Spain manager quits after 11 months.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48695143

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    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/g...tive-wbzwjtkrh

    It's behind a pay wall, but you can read for free if you register. It's a supreme example of failure to win back the fans in a PR battle. Every single word screams bullshit. Manager went on holiday post season shock, when the owners leaked he was going to get sacked he didn't contact them shock, manager refused to play in the style demanded by the owner when he didn't have the players to do so shock.

    I actually think Monk's reputation is way higher than his ability, but with the tools he had post the Redknapp fuck p and the FFP backdrop he did a decent job there. Last time they wanted style over substance they got Zola in.

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    They were going down under Cotterill, no doubt about that. They were bloody awful. Great save there.

    Had them on the edges of the playoffs on no money with a shite squad before the deduction.

    I don't especially like the guy, bit of a snake and his football actually isn't very good, but he'll have no problem getting a better job. Blues on the other hand stick with a failed Oxford manager or will end up with Cotterill II.
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    Garry Monk was sacked by Birmingham City over his attempt to use a single agent in transfer deals and his refusal to adapt the team’s style of play, according to the club’s chief executive.

    The former Swansea City, Leeds United and Middlesbrough manager was dismissed suddenly after 16 months at Birmingham yesterday despite his success in keeping the club in the Championship in the face of a transfer embargo and the deduction of nine points by the EFL for breaching FFP regulations.

    In an explosive interview with The Times the Birmingham chief executive Xuandong Ren details a series of rows behind the scenes at St Andrew’s, which culminated in Monk’s sacking. Ren claims that the club’s relationship with the manager changed after their transfer embargo was lifted by the EFL in March, after which it is alleged that Monk increasingly attempted to use the same agent — James Featherstone of Omnisports — in potential deals. Acting on instructions from the club’s owners, Hong Kong-based company Trillion Trophy Asia, Ren says he objected to this leading to numerous disagreements with Monk, which he claims led to the collapse of their working relationship.

    “We gave Garry everything he wanted,” Ren said. “There was only one thing that triggered this. I made it clear that we did not want his agent involved in every single deal. I’m not 100 per cent sure he was trying to get fired, but I know he didn’t really care about this job.

    “Everything changed when the transfer embargo was lifted. Garry wanted his agent involved in every single deal, which is not something we were comfortable with. We’re not naive, we know the way football works, but it’s not the way we wanted to operate. I actually get on very well with his agent, James Featherstone, who is a very professional and mature guy, but the club didn’t want him involved in every deal.”

    A source close to Monk dismissed the allegations, and pointed out that Featherstone was already being used in transfer negotiations by Birmingham under previous manager Gary Rowett. They also suggested that Ren’s comments were designed to explain the surprise sacking of Monk that has been badly received by many Birmingham fans.

    Ren also cast doubt on Monk’s commitment to Birmingham. As part of his severance package Birmingham have agreed to pay the final 12 months of his contract. This is the second time in 18 months that Monk has left a Championship club amid acrimony, with Middlesbrough launching legal action against his coaching staff at Birmingham last year after they all joined him at St Andrew’s just months after being dismissed in the North East.


    After the agent rows Ren claims that matters were brought to a head at the end of last season when he passed on a request from the owners for a change in the team’s playing style, to which Monk objected. In an indication of the broken relationship Ren claims that Monk held only one meeting with Birmingham after the end of last season despite it being apparent that they had a number of important issues to resolve.

    “Garry was told the owner wanted a change of style, to see Birmingham play more possession football,” Ren said. “Garry said, ‘No chance, I cannot do it. If you want that get someone else.’

    “When I heard that I was very angry. I was not giving him an order. Is the owner not allowed an opinion. I was thinking, ‘is this because I stopped him getting his agent involved? ’

    “We wanted to sit down and talk to him about the season, but he went on holiday straight away. We last met on May 18, when he spent three or four days in Birmingham after coming back from Ibiza, and then went on another holiday.

    “We only met once after the season finished. Last week there were stories [in the media] that Garry would be leaving, but he did not even call. He didn’t care.

    “Maybe the problem is Garry? He has never managed a football club longer than two seasons. Every time he gets sacked he gets richer. He was sacked by Middlesbrough, won his case and got compensation. Football management is crazy. Every time you get sacked you get richer.”

    Ren also responded to criticisms over the club’s decision to suspend under-23 coach Richard Beale after he opted to honour an existing commitment to attend a charity game rather than his side’s Premier League Two play-off final against Leeds last month. Birmingham lost the play-off on penalties after a goalless draw at Elland Road, with Ren furious that Beale did not attend and that Monk or other senior colleagues did not offer to take his place.

    “It was a good cause, but the players had worked their socks off to reach the final,” Ren said. “You have to make a choice. The players went to Leeds without a coach. They lost. Only Paul Robinson was there. The players and parents were so let down.

    “Garry could have gone to the game to help out. If he felt so strongly about it he could have taken the team. They all went to the charity to play five-a-side- football for their own image. It was unbelievable. Imagine if we reached the play-off final and I told my boss I couldn’t go. I would be fired immediately.”

    A spokesman for Monk declined to comment.

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    We’re not naive, we know the way football works,
    Calling bullshit on this quote in the article...

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    I really REALLY hope they are relegated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsch Wolf View Post
    They were going down under Cotterill, no doubt about that. They were bloody awful. Great save there.

    Had them on the edges of the playoffs on no money with a shite squad before the deduction.

    I don't especially like the guy, bit of a snake and his football actually isn't very good, but he'll have no problem getting a better job. Blues on the other hand stick with a failed Oxford manager or will end up with Cotterill II.
    Wouldn't be surprised to see Monk rock up at Derby once Frank goes to Chelsea

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    Roy Keane has left Forest
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    Whispers that he's going to Blues.

    Not one of my concrete tips though so don't go piling on at the bookies just yet...
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    It'd be a Blues 'name' appointment just like they did with Zola

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    Newcastle have confirmed Benitez is leaving when his contract expires on June 30th

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    Bad times for the Geordies. Probably means the takeover is a long way off too.
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    Those guys are charlatans. Tried to buy Liverpool and had no proof of funds and the same has happened at Newcastle.
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    Mr Ashley gets more popular by the day in Newcastle (although I think Rafa was a fraud last season with how he set up in some games).

    Just be like Newcastle to emply Pulis next

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    They could be in a lot of trouble this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    Mr Ashley gets more popular by the day in Newcastle (although I think Rafa was a fraud last season with how he set up in some games).

    Just be like Newcastle to emply Pulis next
    Garry Monk was the first name that popped into my head. Available immediately, and likely won't kick up a fuss as Rafa was over transfer policy at the club as he shouldn't be anywhere near the club

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trips View Post
    Garry Monk was the first name that popped into my head. Available immediately, and likely won't kick up a fuss as Rafa was over transfer policy at the club as he shouldn't be anywhere near the club
    Monk was favourite with some bookies when the news started to come out yesterday about Rafa. Michael Appleton was 2nd on the list

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    Monk was favourite with some bookies when the news started to come out yesterday about Rafa. Michael Appleton was 2nd on the list
    That's a brilliant couple of managers there...
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