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    Loan Watch 2019-2020

    It's that time of year again. No, not Fixture Day (leave that for tomorrow); it's time for the new Loan Watch thread.

    There are some pressing questions to be answered:

    Will Wolves' rapid ascent into the Europa League see previously established first-teamers, like Helder Costa, head back to the Championship?

    Will, as Seyi Olofinjana said, more youngsters be sent out to European leagues?

    Will TWF Loan Watch ever be the same without Ethan Ebanks-Landell's lower league exploits?


    There's only one place to find out. Feel free to post any updates, rumours and comments in here.


    Wolves Loanees 2019/2020

    All loans are for the season unless otherwise specified.

    Ivan Cavaleiro - Fulham, The Championship.

    Rafa Mir - Nottingham Forest, The Championship.

    Bright Enokbahare - Wigan Athletic, The Championship.

    Niall Ennis and Cameron John - Doncaster Rovers, League One.

    Sadou Diallo - Accrington, League One. (Until January)

    Ryan Giles - Shrewsbury Town, League One.

    Will Norris - Ipswich Town, League One.

    Connor Johnson - Kilmarnock, Scottish Premier League

    Christian Herc - FC Viktoria Plzeň, Czech First League (two year deal)

    Connor Ronan - FC DAC 1904 Dunajská Streda, Slovak Superleague.

    Renat Dadashov - Paços de Ferreira, Portuguese Primeira Liga.

    Leo Bonatini - Vitoria FC, Portuguese Primeira Liga.

    Roderick Miranda - FC Famalicao, Portuguese Primeira Liga.

    David Wang - Granollers C.F, Spanish Tercera División.
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    So MGW's former England U17 coach Steve Cooper has got the Swansea job. If he guaranteed to play him week in week out, except for injury until at least the next window would you loan him?

    Personally I would as I think he'd get the game time he needs with a manager that respects him and it'll develop him more than a few minutes here or there for Wolves will.

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    I can see the reasoning behind it but I reckon MGW will have a big part to play in the Europa League games. Nuno's hinted at using fringe members/U23s.

    He does need more game time, that's for sure.

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    Same here, it's not a bad shout at all (and I won't be surprised if Cooper looks to bring in MGW and Brewster from Liverpool) but I'd still rather have Morgan playing first team games here. Think he will get plenty of opportunities.

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    Didn't Giles go to Shrewsbury?

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    No Telford. Ennis did but got crocked early on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyWolves View Post
    Didn't Giles go to Shrewsbury?
    Ricketts wants him but nothing done yet

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    That'd be a great move, especially if we can have him back to train at Compton occasionally.

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    Giles to Shrewsbury on a season long loan confirmed

    On the move, Academy manager Scott Sellars said: “Sam (Ricketts) did a big sell on wanting ‘Gilo’ and explained how he’d knit into how they wanted to play and how he fits in as a wing-back, so for his continued development I think it will be excellent.

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    Added.

    A good move for all parties although I suspect he'll already be too good for that level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sedgley Wolf View Post
    Added.

    A good move for all parties although I suspect he'll already be too good for that level.
    I would think so, and far too good for Shrewsbury who are bottom half at best. I thought he needed to go to a Championship club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny75 View Post
    I would think so, and far too good for Shrewsbury who are bottom half at best. I thought he needed to go to a Championship club.
    Seems the selling point from Shrewsbury was playing him as a LWB, which is obviously better for us. So hopefully he gets a good season in a role we want him to be in. I doubt many Championship sides will be able offer playing him in that position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    Seems the seling point from Shrewsbury was playing him as a LWB, which is obviously better for us. So hopefully he gets a good season in a role we want him to be in. I doubt many Championship sides will be able offer playing him in that position.
    Exactly (Leeds actually went and paid money for Baz last year and don't play him as a LWB) and Championship clubs aren't going to be falling over themselves right now for a player who has played one senior game.

    If he does really well and is clearly way too good for L1 then we can always break it in January and find him somewhere else.
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    I think mgw is going to develop more with a full season of championship football, rather than 5-6 full games with us and 20 subs with 10-20 mins. Hes only 19, got a lot to learn and still has another 2-3 years of peak physical development left. If we are serious about europe and pushing for another top 7 finish we need to sign a quality experienced midfielder to share time with moutinho

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    Alternatively, he could play a part propelling shrewsbury into the top half, and they become potential challengers for the playoffs. Getting significant game time will benefit the lad.

    edit regarding Giles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrum View Post
    I think mgw is going to develop more with a full season of championship football, rather than 5-6 full games with us and 20 subs with 10-20 mins. Hes only 19, got a lot to learn and still has another 2-3 years of peak physical development left. If we are serious about europe and pushing for another top 7 finish we need to sign a quality experienced midfielder to share time with moutinho
    Disagree. Keep MGW here. He'll learn directly from the coaches, and fellow pro's. He'll play in games in europe, as well as cup matches, and some league games. He'll develop here better.
    Signing another Moutinho will hamper MGW's development imo.
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    We're not loaning Gibbs-White out and nor should we, it's a rubbish idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrum View Post
    I think mgw is going to develop more with a full season of championship football, rather than 5-6 full games with us and 20 subs with 10-20 mins. Hes only 19, got a lot to learn and still has another 2-3 years of peak physical development left. If we are serious about europe and pushing for another top 7 finish we need to sign a quality experienced midfielder to share time with moutinho
    Disagree, If we make the Europa group stages we are going to be playing a lot of games so he will be needed.

    Also say he goes to Bristol City and starts, - as soon as their results go south he will more than likely be dropped to the bench as young loan players are always easy fall guys in that situation and that can have a knock on affect to confidence and the players value. These loans seem to go wrong far more times than they go well.

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    It's the message it sends as well.

    "Come to Wolves if you're a top star in your age group, by the way we can't develop you properly so we'll farm you out to a couple of shitbox teams in a lower league and hope it somehow works out, even though all evidence says it doesn't".

    Loans make sense for Giles (not played any first team football of note and third choice for one spot) and Bright (no future here but we need him to prove himself in the Championship ideally so we can sell him for a proper fee). Not MGW.
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    No way it will happen. It would impede his development hideously
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    Chances of us loaning out MGW are about the same as Man City sending Foden out on loan nest season

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonjelly View Post
    Alternatively, he could play a part propelling shrewsbury into the top half, and they become potential challengers for the playoffs. Getting significant game time will benefit the lad.

    edit regarding Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by lemonjelly View Post
    Disagree. Keep MGW here. He'll learn directly from the coaches, and fellow pro's. He'll play in games in europe, as well as cup matches, and some league games. He'll develop here better.
    Signing another Moutinho will hamper MGW's development imo.
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    I'd keep him until Jan, review his game time, progression and whether we are still in Europe and take it from there. A second half of the season with us with the same game time as the second half last year isn't going to do him any favours.

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    Neither is letting someone like Gary Johnson coach him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddingtonwolf View Post
    Neither is letting someone like Gary Johnson coach him
    Yes it would have to be the right move which I accept isn't a strength ours. I said previously his U17 manager is now at Swansea and that would be a good fit. As I said it's something to review in January rather than now

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    I suppose Helder technically goes in here so I'll add him to the list!

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    Cav added. I expect he'll have a good season.

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    Connor Ronan scored tonight for DAC (we didn't bother to formally announce that we'd loaned him out again)
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