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    Aston Villa (H) 10/11 Build-Up & Match Thread

    --------------------------Patricio----------------------

    -------Dendoncker------Coady-------Saiss--------

    Doherty------Moutinho-------Neves---------Jonny

    ------------Traore------Jimenez-----Jota--------------

    Grealish was supposed to be back training for them yesterday, may or may not be available.

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    Think that team above picks itself.

    Nervous about this game with the amount of Villa fans I know, they look a decent side from what I have seen of them, but we are also showing signs of getting back to performance levels of last season. Think this will be a close one, first goal important as ever.

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    local derbies are often a draw. Villa are a tidy side. I would be happy with a win but I wont be surprised if its a draw. I dont think they come to park the bus though and that may be a positive. If we start as brightly against villa as we did against arsenal and Bratislava then we will cause them serious problems. High tempo high pressure.

    We are so due a really good win at home.
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    I wouldn't be surprised if Nuno played 3-5-2 with Bennett back in and one of Traore/Doc at right back, but I definitely want the team Dan has put. Neves just looks like he is coming into form.

    Grealish would be a big miss for them. Hoping we can stop McGinn from causing us issues as he is a pest without the ball and looked half decent for them attacking wise. If we can dominate the ball from the start I think that will help us.

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    Almost certain that Nuno will start 3-5-2 and I'd expect to see Adama on the bench. Really hope that Grealish is out as most people looking at the game objectively would see Grealish/McGinn as a better midfield pairing than Neves/Moutinho at the moment
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    Grealish hasn't been playing in midfield (I definitely wouldn't agree with that either)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Deeley View Post
    Almost certain that Nuno will start 3-5-2 a
    Just like he was going to at Arsenal and go ultra defensive at Man City?

    Don't take this as a dig at you Normski but there seems to be a lot of fans who want to be overly negative and expect the worse at the moment. Not quite sure why.

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    It would make no sense to go 3-5-2, it's not worked well this season and our best performances have been while playing 3-4-3. Plus we need the Traore Raul Jota front 3 on the pitch.

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    If Nuno plays 3-5-2 then heís a idiot. Tons of evidence to suggest how ineffective it is. To play it in a home game against a team in 16th would make me feel like heís lost the plot.

    3-4-3. Neil taylor is awful, probably worst full back in the league. He was awful in the championship too. Get Adama and Doc tearing him a new one. If Grealish (or El Ghazi actually) plays canít see him doing the dirty work to any great effect back there either so should be an area to exploit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Deeley View Post
    Really hope that Grealish is out as most people looking at the game objectively would see Grealish/McGinn as a better midfield pairing than Neves/Moutinho at the moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuntsWolf View Post
    If Nuno plays 3-5-2 then he’s a idiot. Tons of evidence to suggest how ineffective it is.
    Yet last season it was a formation that turned our season on its head.

    At the moment 3-4-3 is the way we need to play but if we went to 3-5-2 it wouldn't mean Nuno has lost the plot or anything like that. Its a formation he built last season and we had lethal pairing up top, so it wouldn't be a crazy notion to try and get that back. I am more than happy to see a reverse of last season and Nuno's prefered formation is what puts us in the top half of the Prem.

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    Is it just down to the opposition devising ways to play against our 3-5-2? Same as they did against the 3-4-3 last season? Rinse and repeat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    Yet last season it was a formation that turned our season on its head.

    At the moment 3-4-3 is the way we need to play but if we went to 3-5-2 it wouldn't mean Nuno has lost the plot or anything like that. Its a formation he built last season and we had lethal pairing up top, so it wouldn't be a crazy notion to try and get that back. I am more than happy to see a reverse of last season and Nuno's prefered formation is what puts us in the top half of the Prem.
    I was saying it in jest. Last season it was fine but this season it has been awful. We havenít been playing it the same either and people havenít been playing against it the same.

    If we play 3-5-2 against Villa I expect the same scenario as all the other times weíve played it. Particularly against a team who are more than happy to go direct - exposed against the counter, long hoofs up to Doc and Donk, zero penetration or possession relyin exclusively on the counter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machin05 View Post
    Is it just down to the opposition devising ways to play against our 3-5-2? Same as they did against the 3-4-3 last season? Rinse and repeat...
    Would say a mix of that and a few players being out of form. Changed a few things tactically when we started to concede daft/shit goals so naturally we went to try and stop that and parked Neves about 1 foot in front of Coady and that strange couple of games where we went long a lot. Guess the 3-4-3 is working better as we have Traore being a geniune threat and he takes out 3 or 4 players out of a game at the moment and it has created space for Neves and co
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuntsWolf View Post
    If Nuno plays 3-5-2 then heís a idiot. Tons of evidence to suggest how ineffective it is. To play it in a home game against a team in 16th would make me feel like heís lost the plot.

    3-4-3. Neil taylor is awful, probably worst full back in the league. He was awful in the championship too. Get Adama and Doc tearing him a new one. If Grealish (or El Ghazi actually) plays canít see him doing the dirty work to any great effect back there either so should be an area to exploit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Towner View Post
    Targett is their left back
    Meh. He still canít stop Traore and the rest of my thoughts on the RHS still apply. Heís a threat gong forward so pin him back rather than giving him the freedom of Molineux like 3-5-2 does.
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    Definitely Dan's team for me. I want to see us with a front three going at Villa, really hope we don't go for the 3-5-2 on Sunday as if we do then I don't think we will break them down all that effectively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Deeley View Post
    Almost certain that Nuno will start 3-5-2 and I'd expect to see Adama on the bench. Really hope that Grealish is out as most people looking at the game objectively would see Grealish/McGinn as a better midfield pairing than Neves/Moutinho at the moment
    Villa have been playing with a midfield 3. McGinn, Nakamba and Hourihane / Soares. Grealish is playing in a freeish role from the left. So not only do I disagree with the premise, it's also not accurate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    Would say a mix of that and a few players being out of form. Changed a few things tactically when we started to concede daft/shit goals so naturally we went to try and stop that and parked Neves about 1 foot in front of Neves and that strange couple of games where we went long a lot. Guess the 3-4-3 is working better as we have Traore being a geniune threat and he takes out 3 or 4 players out of a game at the moment and it has created space for Neves and co
    That's some tactic to have one single player in 2 different places on the pitch!

    I'm massively looking forward to this game/getting the piss taken out of me in the RL (delete as appropriate).
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonjelly View Post
    That's some tactic to have one single player in 2 different places on the pitch!

    I'm massively looking forward to this game/getting the piss taken out of me in the RL (delete as appropriate).
    In my defence I posted that a few mins after my Dog jumped up me and managed to push me back and smack my head of the furniture, so I am blaming concussion for this instance of me posting like housecoat.

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    I stopped reading after the third word...
    Where was the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom!

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    Anyhows, just gonna pop this here for a bit of comment:
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    Heaton over Rui

    Ok, that's as far as I'm going with that waste of bandwidth.

    The Villa goalkeeper has more saves to his name, more punches, more catches and more clearances over the campaign so far
    Er yes, because their defence and overall system is nowhere near as solid as ours.
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    That was my exact response!
    Where was the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom!

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    Utter and complete bollocks. McGinn and Grealish wouldn't get in our midfield.

    The plank has deliberately picked a formation to try and get some Villa players in.

    Of their entire squad I might, at a push, consider Mings.

    Guilbert against Doherty is fucking lunacy.
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    Fuck sake, Jonny is NOT a right sided player!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddingtonwolf View Post
    Of their entire squad I might, at a push, consider Mings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Fuck sake, Jonny is NOT a right sided player!
    Yes he is.
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    FFS, Booz, this high horse you're on lately is bewildering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boozad View Post
    Yes he is.
    He is right footed. He is not right sided.
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    FFS Alan
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