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    so much was good about last night.
    Patricio was brilliant. Again he is showing his quality.
    Donck stood up to the mark after a below par performance that the weekend.
    Saiss looked very good again.
    Jonny had a very good game, such a shame he slipped when Raul put him through.
    Doherty again was very good.
    Traore was very very good. Take SLAs point about when he stops - for me the team lose a bit of momentum and advantage when he does this. I hugely expect Nuno and co will work on this with him. The development is phenomenal. Also, I want to give him credit for his tracking back and covering Doherty a couple of times.
    Moutinho as we all know is brilliant. He's so good it overshadows what a lot of exceptional work Neves does - he was everywhere last night (Neves).
    Raul and Jota did a phenomenal amount of work. It'll come for Jota - maybe I should stop predicting him to be 1st goalscorer.
    Neto made a good cameo, and Cutrone took his goal really well. And Bennett is back.

    West Ham are a poor team. I would love them to go down. Brady, pornodwarves, stadium issue. There's worse teams than them, so they'll survive. Haller has to be wondering WTF he signed up for.

    As Langers says, we're good. We're really fucking good. We bossed last night and hardly got out of third gear. I said a few weeks ago we're almost a top 4 side. If we make good signings, I think we'll be banging on that door fucking hard.
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    Sad that I couldn't watch last night's game, have had internet issues since the weekend.

    Nonetheless, very pleased with the result. West Ham is a direct competitor and smashing them is a very good indicator and puts us in an even better position!

    From what I've read here, it was a very good match, so all the better!

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    Wolves 2 -0 Wet Sham verdict thread

    Enjoyed the game yesterday, reminded me of last years home game against West Ham - always thought we would win.

    Counter to some of the above, I thought Traore had one of his poorer games. Yes he beat lots of players and had a pretty good defender on toast, but that a given for him in most / all games. I thought some of his end ball had regressed a bit, 2 or 3 good crosses, but not much more.

    Jonny MotM for me, he was exceptional defensively (as normal), but in attack too.

    I thought Jota and Raul were both a bit selfish, and the movement and passing was not as sharp as normal - possibly tiredness. Could explain some of the end balls from Traore. Neto really impressed me, Iím very quickly changing my mind - he does have end product. Fantastic for Cutrone to get his goal, everyone in the ground seemed really happy for him. The Bully similarities are clear, hope he goes on to have half the success of Bully.

    On a side note the traffic into Wolverhampton is getting shitter and shitter, particularly for a night game. Over an hour from Stafford to Wolverhampton is just crap.
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    I had a night off last night so managed to watch every minute of the game without people wanting beers.

    Solid performance just a few comments.

    Traore fucking release the ball sometimes he turns players creates lots of space, then gets crowded out by 4 or 5. He should release it earlier.
    Jota is getting next to no luck, nothing is bouncing for him.
    Needs to relax it will come.
    Jiminez also needs to release it we look like we are playing Fifa sometimes.
    I saw highlights of a few goals last season.the interplay and one touch stuff round the box was superb this season there seems less of it.
    We really need to start turning dominant performance into dominant wins it was ridiculous that we were so.dominant yet the game was still on a knife edge on 85 minutes, our front 3 whilst absolutely.fantastic need to be less selfish

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    Traore explained why he holds on to the ball in his post-match interview. He said before he was bursting down the wing and getting ahead of the other strikers and having no option in the box to deliver to. He's trying to slow down a bit, take the defender on a second time, then if the movement of Raul and/or Jota is good enough he should have a clear option in the box. He's obvisouly still learning and it isn't always perfect, but it's clear he is taking on what Nuno and the team are telling him and getting better all the time.
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    Impressed last night, thought west ham were more dangerous than last season when they were just abject and seemed devoid of any attacking threat.

    Thought we played well as a team, Jota is just that 5% off form that means things just don't come off for him, but he does so much right, it'll come, I feel hes desperate to get a goal, had a bit of bad luck with that offside and Ronaldo nicking one.

    Moutinho is like watching a thing of beauty, never in my wildest dreams did I think I would watch such a player in a Wolves top in midfield.

    Saiss is some player, to have him, Donk and Coady as our 3 centre halves all being good comfortable on the ball is something of a joy to witness.

    All in all very positive, oh and special word to announcing Snodgrass was being subbed before he'd even worked out what was going on from that tackle, we all love a pantomime villain

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    The relationship between Doc and Adama is becoming very effective too. Adama pulling wide and drawing the full back leaves Doc so much time to run into the space that's left behind. It nearly came off a few times last night and was obviously successful last week against Braga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tredman View Post

    Counter to some of the above, I thought Traore had one of his poorer games. Yes he beat lots of players and had a pretty good defender on toast, but that a given for him in most / all games. I thought some of his end ball had regressed a bit, 2 or 3 good crosses, but not much more.
    I actually disagree with this. Traores first cross was very different from most of his crosses. He usually gets to the byline and floats one over, mainly to the back post.
    Last night, his first run and cross resulted in a low cross delivered with pace. Different. Progress. I liked to see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nando View Post
    The relationship between Doc and Adama is becoming very effective too. Adama pulling wide and drawing the full back leaves Doc so much time to run into the space that's left behind. It nearly came off a few times last night and was obviously successful last week against Braga.
    It seems to be taking some attacking burden off Doc too. He's not having to run with the ball at defenders very often, which is helping keep things tight at the back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machin05 View Post
    Traore explained why he holds on to the ball in his post-match interview. He said before he was bursting down the wing and getting ahead of the other strikers and having no option in the box to deliver to. He's trying to slow down a bit, take the defender on a second time, then if the movement of Raul and/or Jota is good enough he should have a clear option in the box. He's obvisouly still learning and it isn't always perfect, but it's clear he is taking on what Nuno and the team are telling him and getting better all the time.
    You can see him now looking up early to see whose getting in the box. More often than not when he's been putting balls into there after scorching the opposition there are 4 defenders vs Raul on his own and it goes to the back stick.. He's steadily improving and the superlatives being thrown at him are justified at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonjelly View Post
    I actually disagree with this. Traores first cross was very different from most of his crosses. He usually gets to the byline and floats one over, mainly to the back post.
    Last night, his first run and cross resulted in a low cross delivered with pace. Different. Progress. I liked to see it.
    I agree he did have 2 or 3 better crosses than normal, but there did seem to be quite a bit of running into a dead end (not necessarily his fault, if no one was getting in the box).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tredman View Post
    I agree he did have 2 or 3 better crosses than normal, but there did seem to be quite a bit of running into a dead end (not necessarily his fault, if no one was getting in the box).
    Jota is the current dead end kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rui_CostCo View Post
    Jota is the current dead end kid.
    His runs and movement is still fine, it's just when he gets the ball it all goes wrong for him lately. A combination of trying too hard and not releasing the ball at the right time is making it tough for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rui_CostCo View Post
    Jota is the current dead end kid.
    I cba to check, but I would imagine they have very similar stats in terms of possession retained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonjelly View Post
    I actually disagree with this. Traores first cross was very different from most of his crosses. He usually gets to the byline and floats one over, mainly to the back post.
    Last night, his first run and cross resulted in a low cross delivered with pace. Different. Progress. I liked to see it.
    Without being a negative Norman.
    For me, when Traore takes on a few players, stops, takes on the same player and then crosses to the goalie its pointless and nothing comes of it.
    We and he are far more dangerous we he gets past a player and gets to the byline and cuts the ball back, on the floor.
    He did this for a recent Raul goal and for jota v sheff utd.
    I mean, i heard people saying he was great last night but what highlights of any of those runs in the first half made MOTD?.
    Very pleased for Cutrone, he never gets the benefit of a fresh running team from the start (might he get on a traore crossed ball? Who knows)
    Watched Neves in the first half chase down 5 wet spam players right across the pitch...think he's definitely back to what we know and love.
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    I missed the game at the stadium last night as teacher's have an inability to keep anywhere close to the correct time on parents evening, so my view was from the tele.

    On Jota, I don't think his confidence is down, if it were he wouldn't make the runs he did. I thought he like all our front 3 was guilty of trying to be too cute. The point I'd make though is I don't think he's fit. There were occasions last night and on Sunday when he had a yard on his man, but was caught when in the past he'd have been away. I'm sure he's playing through something

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    Quote Originally Posted by machin05 View Post
    Traore explained why he holds on to the ball in his post-match interview. He said before he was bursting down the wing and getting ahead of the other strikers and having no option in the box to deliver to. He's trying to slow down a bit, take the defender on a second time, then if the movement of Raul and/or Jota is good enough he should have a clear option in the box. He's obvisouly still learning and it isn't always perfect, but it's clear he is taking on what Nuno and the team are telling him and getting better all the time.
    There were at least 3 or 4 times he was in midfield running with players ahead of him and he still ran and ran and ran...

    When he out wide with no one in the box I will accept that but not when he is running from deep with Jota and Raul running in to space because adama has 3 or 4 players around him as they are so scared

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    The difference now though is even when Traore doesn't have his best game and I thought he was guilty of over playing at times last night, he takes 2 and sometimes 3 players with him. That's crucial for space around the rest of the pitch. His very presence is an asset

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    Great game, great night, even taking into account Doosh’s stinging riposte. Not a bad performance anywhere and it was brilliant to see Cutrone get his goal, even Johnny was close to singing about pizza and pasta. Particular highlights were Snodgrass’ miss then being subbed while he was still on the deck and our lot chanting “Sing us your bubble song” when the Whammers has clearly had enough.
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    To nick the old Celtic chant.

    "When the balls in the net and it aint Jiminez
    ........ Its Cutrone!!"
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    Minor point, Dendonckers goal appears to flick off Jotas knee - someone on twitter spotted it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Towner View Post
    I missed the game at the stadium last night as teacher's have an inability to keep anywhere close to the correct time on parents evening, so my view was from the tele.

    On Jota, I don't think his confidence is down, if it were he wouldn't make the runs he did. I thought he like all our front 3 was guilty of trying to be too cute. The point I'd make though is I don't think he's fit. There were occasions last night and on Sunday when he had a yard on his man, but was caught when in the past he'd have been away. I'm sure he's playing through something
    Agree with this - he looks a yard slower than last season
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Deeley View Post
    Agree with this - he looks a yard slower than last season
    This could indicate an underlying injury, or a shortage of confidence.
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    Not if you watched the game. Jota isn't short of confidence

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    I personally feel he is experiencing a lot of frustration, which can lead to a lack of accuracy and a rashness in decision making or the slightest of hesitation at the vital moment.

    He's probably over-thinking things, nothing a goal or two won't remedy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinowolf View Post
    I personally feel he is experiencing a lot of frustration, which can lead to a lack of accuracy and a rashness in decision making or the slightest of hesitation at the vital moment.

    He's probably over-thinking things, nothing a goal or two won't remedy.
    I agree . . . he's still posing a serious threat to opposing teams, we're still winning (or not losing) and the whole team is on song (without our best defender).

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