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    87 yesterday, 41 today.

    Can't help but be cynical when the figures come out 5 hours later than usual, but that's just me.

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    More cuntery from Trump tonight.

    Definitely going to be opening America up soon

    America has done more tests than anywhere else (not per capita it hasn't)

    It's hard not to be happy with the job he is doing apparently.

    Dangerous idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I don't think I would agree that Biden has more support from black Americans than Hillary did... But I'd defer to any stats if you've got them.

    Regardless, we can likely both agree that the "job" Trump has done in regards to COVID-19 is absolutely horrendous.
    As horrendous as everything he does. Which makes it all the more puzzling that you would consider not voting for his Democrat opponent - in Florida especially, where every single vote matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddingtonwolf View Post
    More cuntery from Trump tonight.

    Definitely going to be opening America up soon

    America has done more tests than anywhere else (not per capita it hasn't)

    It's hard not to be happy with the job he is doing apparently.

    Dangerous idiot.
    Fortunately an idiot - would be much more dangerous if he had a brain.

    Anyway, 'opening' America needs the support of state governors, which doesn't seem to be there:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...F6z?li=BBnbcA1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elephant Pyjamas View Post
    87 yesterday, 41 today.

    Can't help but be cynical when the figures come out 5 hours later than usual, but that's just me.
    The last few days we've started diverging from the path Italy was on, which I'll take for good news - in the sense that it extrapolate in the long run into a not-insignificant number of people surviving who might have otherwise have died. It's still going to be awful, though, of course.

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    What constitutes "essential business" in the USA, how it varies from state to state, and why experts consider liquor essential

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennisons Wrong Foot View Post
    As horrendous as everything he does. Which makes it all the more puzzling that you would consider not voting for his Democrat opponent - in Florida especially, where every single vote matters.
    Live here long enough, and it will absolutely wring you dry of faith in the system.
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    Alan, I totally understand your disillusionment, especially in a state where Republicans continuously think of new ways of holding on to power. They want you to give up - so all the more reason to keep fighting. And Joe has more chance of winning Florida than Bernie would have had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennisons Wrong Foot View Post
    Alan, I totally understand your disillusionment, especially in a state where Republicans continuously think of new ways of holding on to power. They want you to give up - so all the more reason to keep fighting. And Joe has more chance of winning Florida than Bernie would have had.
    Fair point, mate. I just wish I trusted Joe to do a good job. Better than Trump, sure. But that's such a low bar. It's difficult to get excited about.
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    A friends dad died from Coronavirus recently, also hearing of more and more people I know infected. Starting to seem a lot more real.
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    Rumours that the self employed help will only apply to those earning less than £30k based on their last tax return. Not clear whether that means capped at £30k or anyone that earnt over that doesn't qualify at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Towner View Post
    Rumours that the self employed help will only apply to those earning less than £30k based on their last tax return. Not clear whether that means capped at £30k or anyone that earnt over that doesn't qualify at all.
    Well from the document doing the rounds the other day the Max payment was less than 3k p/m, so would presume capped

    Seems to be going round that those on UC won't get anything extra...will piss off all the ones who raced in last week to claim the £94p/w as they thought that was the only help out there.

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    Went out to one of our sites yesterday to do a report of where they were for if/when they have to stop works and close site. Ended up listening in on a few conference calls through the day and our work don't seem to be handling this situation well at all, some how seeming to take any bit of ambiguity or slight grey area from the government and rather than refine it to suit our situation they add a whole new layer of ambiguity and nonsense, further removing themselves from any sort of responsibility.

    At the start of the day we had new guidance on working practices, generally have to keep 2m distance at all times so any activity that can't comply with that can't be carried out and anyone who tries to car share will be turned away from site (unless they're from the same household) so we communicated that to the subcontractors on site, only two firms at the moment but both agreed it was the sensible thing to do and arranged their own meetings with their labour to pass the message on. Already our management staff were getting a bit annoyed with one another, some people happy to carry on as long as the subbies think they can comply and others just thinking it was stupid to be coming anywhere near site, generally amicable discussions but one dissenting voice in particular going way over the top and annoying everyone else.

    Around lunchtime have a conference call with our contracts manager and the site team at another job he's responsible for, basically saying to plug on following that guidance for the time being, few bits of advice to try and hammer the guidelines home like updating method statements to comply with the 2m distancing, perhaps re-inducting all site staff with extra content in there to cover the new guidelines so no-one can claim they haven't been told, all very much based on the individual sites taking charge rather than any overarching policy from head office. Told there was a board meeting that afternoon where they were reviewing the situation and we would have the outcome passed on to us once it had finished.

    So then we spend most of the afternoon bickering about whether it should be down to us as a site team, subcontractors, client, our company, government or whoever else to make the decision to close, but no matter the level it all comes down to cost at the end of the day, at any level someone has a financial penalty as a result of closing sites. Eventually we get the feedback from the board meeting and it was about as inconsistent as it could have been, they'd reviewed jobs on a site by site basis and made decisions where they thought people could carry on or where it was best to bring things to a close for the time being, again our contracts manager broke the news to both his site teams simultaneously in a conference call, job in Sheffield to close all but immediately but us at Leicester to continue indefinitely, went down as well as you can imagine. The inconsistency is just annoying people, we've got head office closing some sites and not others, some subcontractors complying at not others, some management staff willing to work but not others, it's going to get pretty nasty between some parties if it isn't taken out of their hands and applied evenly soon.

    There was further advice that if sites close people would be expected to work from home as long as they could be productive, once you run out of work to do you either use holiday or get furloughed, again an imbalance where some people will be able to remain productive longer than others maintaining their income, others will have more holiday remaining allowing them keep full pay for longer, this part was particularly badly received.

    The only thing we could all agree on come the end of the day was the only way to make it fair was to close everything down, either maintaining everyone on full pay or furloughing everyone until sites get back up and running, but that's only going to happen if government closes all sites. Our company has a few hundred million cash in the bank, they could pay everyone full wages for about 7 years with no income and they still wouldn't run dry but we all know they've got no appetite to be the bigger man in this situation and close our sites before the government enforces it.

    Hopefully the uncertainty doesn't continue too much longer otherwise I could see some relationships becoming very fractured.
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    So the government have changed the way that they report the death toll moving forward, instead waiting for the families of the deceased to be notified before they include the figures, how odd, given that it is just a number.

    https://twitter.com/siennamarla/stat...202818561?s=19

    It doesn't make sense.

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    Yeah, I just saw that. Also, apparently the dip in deaths yesterday was also partly down to the cut-off point for reporting each day being changed - they want to switch from reporting at the end of each day to the morning, so there was a weird transition cut-off that made it seem like a dip when it probably hasn't been.

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    Rick Stein doing a Tim martin and refusing to pay his staff until he gets the 80% from the Government at the end of April

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    I won't be buying any of his books any more. Shame as I rather like them. Squeeze will be delighted as she thinks Stein is "a pompous twat".

    In other news I HAVE ACTUALLY MANAGED TO BUY PASTA IN MORRISONS. Lasagne on the way tonight then.
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    Staring to quite enjoy working from home now.

    My initial anxiety has resided as I have come to the conclusion that it's a massive big free for all when it comes to our project, nothing is being tracked or monitored and the tasks we are doing are fairly mundane. This week I have finsihed up the plan for online training for 150 people, and now all I have left to do is arrange a virtual table quiz for our team tomorrow.
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    I honestly didn't think people were that stupid...

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    On a personal level I feel human again after about 3 weeks of feeling full of cold/flu and knackered all the time.

    Symptoms seemed to come in waves before going, a right bastard to shift

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyWolves View Post
    On a personal level I feel human again after about 3 weeks of feeling full of cold/flu and knackered all the time.

    Symptoms seemed to come in waves before going, a right bastard to shift
    Were you tested?
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    I honestly didn't think people were that stupid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dublin Drummer Wolf View Post
    Were you tested?
    Not famous (outside this forum) and his Mum isn't the Queen, so guessing no

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    Lol we don't do testing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    Rick Stein doing a Tim martin and refusing to pay his staff until he gets the 80% from the Government at the end of April
    Not quite true: https://www.businessleader.co.uk/ric...-closed/81815/

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    Pretty sure I've got it now, short of breath, raging sore throat, loss of appetite, and temperature spikes, oh and Fletcher too by the looks. Full on isolation time. Glad the sun is shining!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddingtonwolf View Post
    I won't be buying any of his books any more. Shame as I rather like them. Squeeze will be delighted as she thinks Stein is "a pompous twat".
    Agree with Squeeze, they were never over enamoured with him in Padstowe either as he has monopolised the area, still he's amassed around 30 million why should a few minimum wagers spoil that eh ??
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    A friends dad died from Coronavirus recently, also hearing of more and more people I know infected. Starting to seem a lot more real.
    Definitely seeing more people on social media who know someone who has been infected. A fellow Wolves fan got taken ill last night. I think Steve Bull posted about him as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Weasel View Post
    Pretty sure I've got it now, short of breath, raging sore throat, loss of appetite, and temperature spikes, oh and Fletcher too by the looks. Full on isolation time. Glad the sun is shining!
    All the best mate. Fingers crossed for a speedy recovery if you do have it.
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    Cheers mate, sure I'll be fine. To be honest I'd be glad to be through the other side of it and not have to worry

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    A company being 'worth 30m' does not mean they have 30m just sitting in an account

    The fact is very few companies who have enough liquidity to pay for staff wages indefinitely, even those who report having hundreds of million as cash at hand will find that is actually someone else's money they have resting in their account.

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