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    England: Euro 2020 squad

    Discussed with Trips at the weekend and we couldn't quite find consensus.

    So this is what you want, not what you think will happen.

    We're assuming everyone is fit.

    23 man squad obviously.

    GK (3): D Henderson, Pope, Pickford (that's my order too)

    DF: (8) : Alexander-Arnold, Trippier, Bertrand, Chilwell, Maguire, Gomez, Smalling, Holgate

    MF (7) : J Henderson, Dier, Rice, Maddison, Barkley, Alli, Oxlade-Chamberlain

    FW (5): Kane, Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Vardy*

    *Calvert-Lewin if Vardy says no
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    You forgot Tyrone "Bobby Moore" Mings
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    Wouldn't have him even five down from those choices, he is shit.
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    GK (3): D Henderson, Pope, Pickford

    DF: (8) : Alexander-Arnold, Wan Bissaka, Chilwell, Maguire, Gomez, Coady, Stones, Shaw

    MF (8) : J Henderson, Dier, Winks, Maddison, Barkley, Alli, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Grealish

    FW (4):Kane, Sterling, Sancho, Rashford
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    I can't have Winks, sorry. Such a nothing player. No pace, no passing range, no creativity, can't tackle...he's just a body. Tom Davies with less energy.

    Where would Coads play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsch Wolf View Post
    I can't have Winks, sorry. Such a nothing player. No pace, no passing range, no creativity, can't tackle...he's just a body. Tom Davies with less energy.

    Where would Coads play?
    Coady is there for when the manager realises that sometimes a plan b might be an option and goes to 3/5 at the back?
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    You're never going to be 1-0 down and play an extra defender.
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    Winks looked good in his last few England performances. I think you admitted that, even if you are not normally a fan.

    Pope

    Coady in the middle of a back 3.

    TAA and Chilwell wing backs.

    Henderson and the ox in the middle.

    Sancho Kane Sterling

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    I think he did well in one game. I just don't see what he brings, he's too slow and not good enough to make up for that.

    Simon Osborn without the charm and part of the ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsch Wolf View Post
    You're never going to be 1-0 down and play an extra defender.
    I mean from the start of a match. There will be times where it will be obvious that 4-3-3 (or whatever he plays) won't work from the start and so does something different...

    I know, never happening but it could and should
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    England don't have good enough central defenders to play a flat 4 at the back but they will, and they'll be eliminated by the first decent opponents they face again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsch Wolf View Post
    I think he did well in one game. I just don't see what he brings, he's too slow and not good enough to make up for that.

    Simon Osborn without the charm and part of the ability.
    Is Winks any good at hide and seek?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Towner View Post
    Is Winks any good at hide and seek?
    Better at hiding than seeking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    England don't have good enough central defenders to play a flat 4 at the back but they will, and they'll be eliminated by the first decent opponents they face again.
    Agree totally.

    We should go 3-4-3
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    Was a very interesting conversation with DW about this, especially with the defenders. I would go with the following

    GK (3) - Pope, Henderson, Pickford

    DEF (8) - Alexander-Arnold, Wan-Bissaka, Chilwell, Shaw, Maguire, Gomez, Stones, Smalling

    MID (7) - Henderson, Rice, Dier, Alli, Maddison, Grealish, Oxlade-Chamberlain

    FOR (5) - Kane, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Vardy/Calvert-Lewin (dependant on getting Vardy back in the fold)


    This won't be the squad that goes to the Euros, Mings will inexplicably find a place in the squad and will probably get game time. Winks will also go, and so will Abraham I'd imagine.

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    We've got to be taking Mason Mount, surely?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Woppio View Post
    We've got to be taking Mason Mount, surely?
    Absolutely instead of Grealish. Mount is a far better player.

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    We seem to picking these as our CDs for the tournament:

    Maguire, Gomez, Stones, Smalling

    Any 2 of these are not good enough to win an international tournament. We haven't looked tight at the back since the world cup when we played a back 3 - its our only choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tredman View Post
    We seem to picking these as our CDs for the tournament:

    Maguire, Gomez, Stones, Smalling

    Any 2 of these are not good enough to win an international tournament. We haven't looked tight at the back since the world cup when we played a back 3 - its our only choice.
    Our lack of quality centre back options really is a worry. Not too long ago we had Rio, Terry, Campbell, King, Carragher (sure I've missed someone too) as options at the back, really short now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trips View Post
    Our lack of quality centre back options really is a worry. Not too long ago we had Rio, Terry, Campbell, King, Carragher (sure I've missed someone too) as options at the back, really short now.
    Gomez - Stones/Coady - Maguire would be fine, would also get the best out of the available FBs/WBs. Southgate seems to have his heart set on 4-3-3 our CBs (and CMs too) are just not good enough for that.

    I'd be very happy with:

    D Henderson
    Gomez - Stones / Coady - Maguire
    TAA - J Henderson - Ox - Chillwell
    Sancho - Kane - Sterling
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    Sterling needs to find some form, he's been pretty poor for a long time now.

    Dier has no business anywhere near this snd Rice should be left behind too, but that won't be happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tredman View Post
    Gomez - Stones/Coady - Maguire would be fine, would also get the best out of the available FBs/WBs. Southgate seems to have his heart set on 4-3-3 our CBs (and CMs too) are just not good enough for that.

    I'd be very happy with:

    D Henderson
    Gomez - Stones / Coady - Maguire
    TAA - J Henderson - Ox - Chillwell
    Sancho - Kane - Sterling
    That should be the team. It won't but it seems to be the best available.

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    Pope
    Gomez - Coady -Maguire
    TAA - Henderson- Mount- Ox - Chillwell
    Kane - Sterling
    352 allows Mount and Ox to break out to support and Kane to link. Its also better defensively. Coady could ping the ball from the back all day with the pace in midfield and up front. It also allows Sancho impact from the bench , Stones as cover CB.
    You probably shouldnt throw Coady in now at this late stage after he has played over 100 games in 2 years for his club and none for England. He is the best available in that position though. Henderson is in the form of his life. Pope is the better more commanding keeper. Pickford is so far behind those two his continued selection is myopic to say the least.
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    I dont get the love for Mason Mount, as much as I hate Grealish hes a much better option.

    Coady wont be going either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trips View Post
    I dont get the love for Mason Mount, as much as I hate Grealish hes a much better option.

    Coady wont be going either
    wasnt that the point of the thread? We all kow what Gareth will do , but this is the alternative that is probably better.

    Grealish is an arrogant little prick who shines brightly in an average side. Mount shines brightly in a top 5 a. Thats why Mount gets my vote.
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    Is Mount shining though? Personally think he has been pretty average, with the odd good performance thrown in

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    Quote Originally Posted by tredman View Post
    Gomez - Stones/Coady - Maguire would be fine, would also get the best out of the available FBs/WBs. Southgate seems to have his heart set on 4-3-3 our CBs (and CMs too) are just not good enough for that.

    I'd be very happy with:

    D Henderson
    Gomez - Stones / Coady - Maguire
    TAA - J Henderson - Ox - Chillwell
    Sancho - Kane - Sterling
    Our fullbacks that will play (TAA and Chilwell) won't be good enough defensively when we come up against decent opposition, both are great going forward, but neither are solid defensively. A back 3/5 would be a much better option in my opinion, but it won't happen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trips View Post
    Our lack of quality centre back options really is a worry. Not too long ago we had Rio, Terry, Campbell, King, Carragher (sure I've missed someone too) as options at the back, really short now.
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    Leicester fan I work with just put up his first choice starting XI on our WhatsApp group.

    Pickford
    Maguire
    Tarkowski
    Mings
    Trippier
    Sancho
    Ward prowse
    Alli
    Mount
    Kane
    Wilson

    I mean, where the fuck do you start with that?!!
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    Is that Callum Wilson up front with Kane?

    Cant quite work out the formation either, is it Sancho at RWB and Trippier on the left?

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