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    Best England Cricket XI - 1978 to 2020

    Similar to the football team thread.

    As per Tony's suggestion we will choose from the following...

    2 openers
    A number 3 in the batting line up.
    2 batsmen
    1 all rounder
    1 keeper
    1 spinner
    3 quicks

    You can have a keeper/batsman if you wish and an all rounder as one of the quicks/spinner if you want.

    First vote for the openers - four picks with placings getting 4, 3, 2 or 1 point. The keeper will be next so that it does not interfere with the batsmen's vote.
    3 Picks for the keeper
    3 Picks for a No.3 Batsman
    4 Picks for the batsmen
    3 Picks for the all rounder
    3 Picks for the spinner
    5 Picks for the quicks

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    Alastair Cook
    Graham Gooch
    Mike Atherton
    Andrew Strauss
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    Openers...........

    Geoff Boycott
    Alastair Cook
    Graham Gooch
    Marcus Trescothick

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    As 3 is a special position in the batting line up, I'll do a separate vote for it.

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    Cook
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    Gooch
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    Good idea! I have a feeling I am going to disagree with a lot of you on this

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    Unless Leedswolf or Dewsbury Wolf find this thread I can't see the votes for Boycott increasing by many. He was a devisive figure in his native County too so even then.....
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    He was also done by January 1982 in international cricket so that rules out a good chunk of people from seeing much of him.
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    Can only remember the last 6 months of Boycott's Test career - '81 Ashes onwards so can't really choose him

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    Same for me. I remember the 81 ashes pretty well but he didn't make much of an impression in that series. It was all bohemian, thrash it about cricket by the standards of the time and he fitted that about as well as Sunil Gavaskar did a run chase in an ODI.
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    I saw most of Boycott's career, my first memories of Test cricket are the West Indies series in 1966, I wouldn't pick him even in his prime.

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    Cook

    Strauss

    Trescothick

    Atherton

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    Number 3 is going to be interesting...

    Tempted with DI Gower, but most of the time that I remember he was really a 4. Root obvs. After that I am going to be sniffing around for some interesting possibilities.
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    I've got my three choices lined up.

    Not picking Root there as I don't want him coming to me moaning that he wants to move back down a spot in a few weeks
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    Trouble is I want Bell and Lamb at four really.
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    Vaughan was good there for a brief period. Canít be having Trott.
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    Might have to promote Mr Bell to three I reckon and then DI G can sit at four.
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    Thinking about it we should have a poll for captain once the 11 is chosen. Chances are there will be 5/6 who have captained for decent periods of time. Both openers will have as it looks like it'll be Cook + one of Strauss or Gooch

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    We played Ravi Bopara at three. Jesus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tredman View Post
    Vaughan was good there for a brief period. Canít be having Trott.
    Not biting on Trott, but wouldn't Vaughans best stats be as an opener? Seemed to score centuries in every Test on Hussain's tour to Aus.

    Nevertheless he'll be in my middle order and captain

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    Keeper will also be interesting as it might fill a potential three spot in Stewart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddingtonwolf View Post
    We played Ravi Bopara at three. Jesus.
    We're currently playing Old Man Denly there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Towner View Post
    Not biting on Trott, but wouldn't Vaughans best stats be as an opener? He'll be in my middle order and captain
    Vaughan is a four for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Towner View Post
    Not biting on Trott, but wouldn't Vaughans best stats be as an opener? Seemed to score centuries in every Test on Hussain's tour to Aus.

    Nevertheless he'll be in my middle order and captain
    Probably, but heís not good enough to be there. Weíre very short of options at 3, Bell perhaps?
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    Woolmer was at three for a chunk of the 81 Ashes. Not really our Strongest position that I can pick out easily. I will definitely be putting Bell in there and Root, but then I fear for Gower making the cut in the lower batting positions. And that would be a crying shame as he was majestic to watch.
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    Bell overwhelmingly performed at his best at 5 or 6 (very occasionally 7 too when a nightwatchman came in ahead of him).

    Only ever scored two Test hundreds at 3 (both within a couple of weeks of each other when we battered India in 2011), didn't average 40 there and never held down a place there for good reason.
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    If Stewart wins keeper, then number three is actually a bit moot.

    He has a chance, but I am going Alan Knott as my number one there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddingtonwolf View Post
    Woolmer was at three for a chunk of the 81 Ashes. Not really our Strongest position that I can pick out easily. I will definitely be putting Bell in there and Root, but then I fear for Gower making the cut in the lower batting positions. And that would be a crying shame as he was majestic to watch.
    Without Googling I always think of Gower as a 3

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