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    I wish we'd never had Stewart as a keeper tbh. His record with the gloves is miles off when he played as a specialist batsman. Trashed his overall record there in the name of "balance" (normally so we could pick some shite player who was never good enough to get in the team).
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    Not sure why Trott is being so easily dismissed. Can't remember England ever having a world class #3 from the 80's onward and he did average a little over 44
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    So openers

    Denly obviously ..............



    Cook
    Gooch
    Atherton
    Strauss.
    Carole Baskin is to blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darlowolf64 View Post
    Not sure why Trott is being so easily dismissed. Can't remember England ever having a world class #3 from the 80's onward and he did average a little over 44
    If you look at that position Trotts record is right up there.
    Carole Baskin is to blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Towner View Post
    Without Googling I always think of Gower as a 3
    As did I - but there seems to be a huge chunk when he was four. He's going in as a three for me.
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    56 innings at 3, 91 at 4 (where he actually wasn't particularly flash) and 49 at 5.

    Fine to have him in either category. Or neither, if you're like me and not *that* old. I mean I did see him play, but when I was very young and he was past his best.
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    That decade I have on you means I saw him at his best. He's in for me.
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    Trott has to be up there as a pick for 3. IIRC he had 3 or 4 years amongst the best in the world at the time.

    Unlike Tony I did google Gowers record at three and he had a reasonable record there. Helped by a poor Australian mid eighties team. I loved watching him unless he was getting out early to the likes of Mudassar Nazar(sp?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffer Grouse View Post
    Trott has to be up there as a pick for 3. IIRC he had 3 or 4 years amongst the best in the world at the time.

    Unlike Tony I did google Gowers record at three and he had a reasonable record there. Helped by a poor Australian mid eighties team. I loved watching him unless he was getting out early to the likes of Mudassar Nazar(sp?).
    His response to always getting out caught at slip wafting outside his off stump was nobody counted the runs he made playing the same shot.

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    I will see who gets the opener slots before Gower stands a chance at three. Canít have too many abhorrent lefties up the order can we
    Carole Baskin is to blame.

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    You can have the best left hand bat we have ever had though!! You are such a bugger cyber.
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    Cook

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    Cook
    Vaughan
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    Boycott's granny

    As a kid I absolutely loved Geoffrey, and would place him above everyone from that era. But I feel that the overall quality of players has improved and that the absolute best of "today" have a better all-round game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennisons Wrong Foot View Post
    I feel that the overall quality of players has improved and that the absolute best of "today" have a better all-round game.
    It's the same argument as football really, I don't think you can compare, it's just different. Batsmen had to contend with uncovered pitches and unlimited short stuff. Bowlers would play for their County, bowl 40 odd overs, come straight to a Test and then back to their counties again before the next one.

    If you put players of yesteryear and gave them the advantages of today then they'd improve to the same level in my view.

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    Openers Result

    Alastair Cook 49
    Graham Gooch 28
    Marcus Trescothick 22
    Andrew Strauss 20
    Mike Atherton 13
    Geoff Boycott 5
    Michael Vaughan 3

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    Wicket Keepers next....

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    I'm going for the best keeper rather than the best batsman keeper
    Jack Russell
    Bruce French
    Matt Prior

    I'm discounting James Foster based on how few Tests he played, although looking it up French only played 16

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    Stewart
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    Alan Knott
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    Alan Knott
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    Knott played 6 (SIX) Tests from 1 Jan 1978 and averaged 21 with the bat...

    His run of scores:

    6, 7, 9, 2, 6, 3, 3, 13, 59, 36, 70*
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    Matt Prior
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsch Wolf View Post
    Knott played 6 (SIX) Tests from 1 Jan 1978 and averaged 21 with the bat...

    His run of scores:

    6, 7, 9, 2, 6, 3, 3, 13, 59, 36, 70*
    He played within the timescale allowed and he was an excellent keeper/batsman.
    Wolves have ambition and wit... why is it such a crime?

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    I can't put Knott in as although I saw him play as I was only interested in batting and bowling at that age so don't really remember him. Bob Taylor was an excellent gloveman but his batting left a lot to be desired. I liked Chris Read but he never settled into test cricket so....

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    Quote Originally Posted by darlowolf64 View Post
    He played within the timescale allowed and he was an excellent keeper/batsman.
    I'm sure he was.

    But it's like nominating Orson Welles as the greatest actor of the 1980s
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