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    He was put in as left back when Hill and Elokobi were both injured as an emergency measure and he did better than anyone expected. First time I saw him there was in the 5-1 Forest game so it was a great start.

    I wish he'd been given some specialist coaching there though, particularly around when to back off and when to engage. There was a goal away at United against Park? in the last minute which sums that element up well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffer Grouse View Post
    I'd like to know behind the scenes if he was involved in any trouble at the time. Foley was in there to wasn't he so I'd see it more of a case of getting the highest earners out of the club on top of getting rid of the knobs.
    Foley played a bit in 2013/14 (scored against Swindon at home) so if he was in there, he got moved out again pretty quickly.

    I get that things had got to the point where we needed a clean break from that era but it's the connotation of sticking him with those pricks who just didn't care (Henry did once then appeared to have a personality change at some point).

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    I liked Ward, summed up the team ethos under Mick and wound up the thick 'get your chequebook out' morons who never forgave Mick for Freddy not being that good.

    A solid player who worked hard and made the most of his opportunities in life.
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    I hated the whole Freddy fiasco, I had a ST in the South Bank at the time and it was involved in some seriously painful conversations.

    I think Foley fell apart a bit after missing out on the Euros, someone I worked with knew him socially and they reckoned his head was never right after not being picked, it was a massive disappointment for him.

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    Never rated Ward as a LB. but never questioned his mental strength or desire as a footballer, both were first class.

    He was at best a limited player who should've been replaced at LB and allowed to play further forward. Not his fault though.

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    This is the thing, we didn't really even try. He was better than Elokobi and Hill, we strangely released Friend without giving him a proper go, so who else did we try?

    Van Damme who we couldn't trust to play LB even before he decided he needed to leave (not having a go at him for that).

    Very late in the day, Jack Robinson who was fucking awful and an absolute scrote of a player too.

    That's it!

    You can argue we could have given Scott Malone a go but he didn't do very well for Huddersfield and it would have been a big ask to chuck a kid in to a struggling PL team.
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    Foley had a injured ankle, I am sure he did the old gold podcast and said he struggled to get any where fit enough to.play.

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    Ward is one of the few players from that era who came out with his reputation unscathed for me. Always gave his absolute best and was a better player than most gave him credit for as well. Ward sliding the ball past Pepe Reina after the baldy prick had sprinted the full length of the pitch to get him sent off the season before remains one of my favourite Wolves memories.

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    I think these are all the left backs/left wing backs who've had a decent run in the team since I started watching us:

    Andy Thompson
    Mark Venus
    Paul Edwards
    Steve Froggatt
    Michael Gilkes
    Dariusz Kubicki
    Lee Naylor
    Kevin Muscat
    Mo Camara
    Denis Irwin
    Jamie Clapham
    Jackie McNamara
    Micky Gray
    Neill Collins
    George Elokobi
    Stephen Ward
    Matt Hill
    Jack Robinson
    Scott Golbourne
    Matt Doherty
    Barry Douglas
    Ruben Vinagre
    Jonny

    I'd say he comes out comfortably towards the top end which isn't bad for a converted striker.
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    Fucking hell there are some horrendous names in that lot
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    Jackie Mac was right up there!

    I think out of those (from the past), probably only Froggatt would get near the first team for us now.

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    Ward did a reasonable job at left back but rather than I'm prove over time if anything he went backwards. In fact he literally went backwards as that became his first thought whenever confronted by an opponent with the ball at their feet. I remember one game, think it was Leicester, when he backed off from the halfway line and the opponent just kept running to goal and just slotted the ball home without a challenge in sight. I seem to recall it was Knockaert but can't be certain.

    Overall I liked him and that goal at Anfield was a fantastic moment amidst a sea of dross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elephant Pyjamas View Post
    Jackie Mac was right up there!

    I think out of those (from the past), probably only Froggatt would get near the first team for us now.
    I'd quite like Veno as a squad option. Not at LB/LWB though.
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    Ward gave everything he had, not his fault that for years we decided not to bring in a proper LB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsch Wolf View Post
    I'd quite like Veno as a squad option. Not at LB/LWB though.
    Different times, but Venus used to live in the Bull and the bookies across the road. Took all the old uns out to the Bar to the races one of the days.

    Also used to play for Codsall Athletic when recovering from an injury.

    Allegedly of course.

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    Oh I know about Veno and his punting

    He went to see my Grandad at Lucas on the day of his retirement. Geezer.
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    Yeah another fan of Ward here, played where he was told, always gave his best and not a bad footballer at all, I was disappointed when he was shipped out, obviously I wasn't in the dressing room at the time but he always came across as an honest guy with a good attitude to me
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    Veno is another I liked, personally think he did ok at LB, LCB or defensive midfield
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    He was ok at LB until his back injury and then that wasn't an option (although we still kept doing it quite often).

    Never liked him in midfield, you wouldn't stick Boly there.
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    Venus as a left back in around 91/2 was very good. Talk of PL move and none ironic Veno for England chants. He got injured around then and lost a yard of pace and was wasn't ever the same at full back

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    Looked alright at LCB, including a brief period where we played 3 at the back too I think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tredman View Post
    Looked alright at LCB, including a brief period where we played 3 at the back too I think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny75 View Post
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    McGhee seemed desperate to get rid of him but as everyone else was injured he did indeed play at LCB for a lot of 96/97. Was very good.
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    Really liked Veno, especially that free kick against Coventry. Plus an actual good goal from Darren Ferguson

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    4. Wayne Hennessey

    Wayne Robert Hennessey (born 24 January 1987) is a Welsh professional footballer who plays as a goalkeeper for Premier League club Crystal Palace and the Wales national team.

    Hennessey's first professional games saw him set a new League Two record for consecutive clean sheets while on loan at Stockport County. He played 166 times for Wolverhampton Wanderers over eight seasons, including three years at Premier League level. After several injury setbacks, he moved to join Crystal Palace in 2014.

    A full international since 2007, Hennessey has earned more than 80 caps for Wales.

    Hennessey was recalled by Wolves in April 2007 after another injury to first-choice Matt Murray and found himself on the substitutes bench for several games. When Murray broke his shoulder on the eve of Wolves' Championship play-off semi-final first leg against local rivals West Bromwich Albion, Hennessey stepped in to make his Wolves debut.

    With Murray sidelined for the whole of the 2007–08 season with yet another injury, Hennessey became firmly established at the club's number one, being an ever-present in the league and signing a new extended contract. At the end of the season he was named in the 2007–08 PFA Championship Team of the Year as well as being named Wolves' Player of the Season. FourFourTwo magazine ranked him 22nd in their Top 50 Football League Players list.

    The 2008–09 season saw a strong start for Hennessey and Wolves with eight victories out of the first nine league games. This fine run ended against promotion rivals Reading with a 0–3 loss begun by an own goal from Hennessey. Soon after manager Mick McCarthy dropped him to the bench, citing mental fatigue as the reason. Reserve keeper Carl Ikeme deputised and impressed enough to leave Hennessey on the sidelines until an injury ruled him out for the majority of the season. Hennessey then regained and kept his place in goal for the remainder of the season which culminated with promotion to the Premier League as champions after a five-year absence.

    Hennessey began the club's 2009–10 Premier League campaign as first choice goalkeeper, making his 100th senior appearance for the club in a 2–2 draw at Stoke City in October 2009. However, after conceding four goals in two successive games, he was replaced by the more experienced Marcus Hahnemann and remained on the bench for the rest of the season as the club finished 15th.

    In July 2010, Hennessey extended his contract with Wolves to run until the summer of 2015. The following season began with Hahnemann retaining the number one spot until his own loss of form saw Hennessey return to the starting line-up in November 2010. He then held on to the spot for the remainder of the campaign as the club narrowly avoided relegation on the final day.

    During the 2011–12 season, Hennessey was part of the Wolves defence that went a club record of 30 consecutive league games without a clean sheet. They finally ended this with a goalless draw at Sunderland in April 2012, but by then the team was rooted to the bottom of the table. Despite the game halting this run, it brought bad news for Hennessey as he suffered a torn cruciate knee ligament during it that was due to keep him sidelined until Autumn 2012. After completing several reserve games during his comeback he re-injured the knee during training in November 2012 which kept him out of action for the remainder of the 2012–13 season.

    He made his return to the Wolves goal during pre-season ahead of their 2013–14 campaign – with the club now in League One having suffered two relegations since Hennessey's initial injury – but he was not selected to start the club's opening fixtures. On 12 August 2013 it was agreed for the goalkeeper to spend a month on loan at Yeovil Town as he recovers from his long-term injury problems. However, before this deal was officially concluded Hennessey suffered a hamstring problem while on international duty with the Welsh national team and so the proposed loan was scrapped. Although, on 21 August 2013, after an injury to Yeovil's replacement goalkeeper Sam Johnstone Hennessey officially joined Yeovil Town on an initial one-month loan which was eventually extended until 17 November 2013. He made his Yeovil debut in a 0–3 loss to Derby County on 24 August 2013. In his penultimate home match Hennessey received the man of the match award after the Glovers achieved their first ever home win at Championship by defeating Nottingham Forest.

    After his loan spell at Yeovil ended, Hennessey returned to Wolves but did not displace Carl Ikeme in goal. When Ikeme suffered an injury in January 2014, Hennessey declined to play in the following fixture against Gillingham, launching speculation that he wanted a move away from the club. Although he subsequently apologised for his refusal to play, he did not play again for Wolves and negotiations were later entered into with Premier League team Crystal Palace.

    On 31 January 2014, Hennessey joined Crystal Palace on a three-and-a-half year deal for an undisclosed fee, with media speculation suggesting it to be an initial £1.6 million, with add-on clauses.

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    I never really had full confidence in Hennessey. Dunno if it was cos I'd been spoiled by Murray and Stowell but although he was clearly decent just never had that same level of trust. Very highly rated as a kid but only really gone on to have a mediocre top flight career.
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    A coward of a goalkeeper. There was a point in our promotion season I thought his flaps were going to cost us. Reserve keeper for a mid table Prem side is his level.

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    A good keeper who I think possibly suffered from his predecessor having been a brilliant keeper.

    To have had Murray, Hennesey and Ikeme (to a lesser extent) come through the club shows we were doing something right.

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    I think Hennessey benefitted by "coming through the academy", which is debated.
    Aspects of his game were very good. Clearly one doesn't obtain a record for consecutive clean sheets, albeit in a lower league, without having some ability.
    However, there were so many aspects of his game that didn't really improve.
    Think he got a lot of undeserved love as he clashed with Johnson publicly. However his character has left some stuff to be desired, and I have more than once wondered who was the real bad guy there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Towner View Post
    A coward of a goalkeeper. There was a point in our promotion season I thought his flaps were going to cost us. Reserve keeper for a mid table Prem side is his level.
    See I think there is much to this. Almost everyone will say "good shot stopper", which is a minimum requirement for any goalkeeper. He was a decent shot stopper, but really, none of the rest of his game stood out. And he certainly should have been much better with crosses. FFS he watched Matt Murray!
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