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Aston Villa (A) 21/9: Build-Up & Match Thread

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Lots of parallels to the City game last season. Off the back of a poor league start and a League Cup exit shipping three goals, with further tough fixtures on the horizon and us in desperate need of points...

We performed that alchemy last season but I'm less sure we can repeat the trick. We look so vulnerable all the time to everything, can you honestly see us keeping Villa at bay? They did have Europe in midweek but it was a cruise for them as soon as they went 1-0 up, so won't have taken too much out of them.

Left back all depends on fitness, please God let at least one of Toti or Ait-Nouri be fit as I'm in no mood to watch Matt Doherty again. And play a proper three man midfield FFS, we have the players to do it and you don't have to shovel anyone out of position to do it.

-----------------------Johnstone----------------------

Semedo-----------Mosquera------Dawson----Ait-Nouri

-----------------------André-----------------------------

---------------J Gomes--------Lemina-------------------

-----------Forbs-----Strand Larsen----Cunha-------------

2023/24: D 1-1 (H), L 0-2 (A)
2022/23: W 1-0 (H), D 1-1 (A)
2021/22: W 2-1 (H), W 3-2 (A)
2020/21: L 0-1 (H), D 0-0 (A)
2019/20: W 2-1 (H), W 1-0 (A), L 1-2 (A, LC)
2017/18: W 2-0 (H), L 1-4 (A)
2016/17: W 1-0 (H), D 1-1 (A)
2011/12: L 2-3 (H), D 0-0 (A)
2010/11: L 1-2 (H), W 1-0 (A)
2009/10: D 1-1 (H), D 2-2 (A)
2003/04: L 0-4 (H), L 2-3 (A)
1995/96: L 0-1 (A, LC)

 
Would be typical Wolves to go and win this. I have no confidence they will.
Oh for the days when we could go anywhere in the Prem and give the opposition a hard game.
 
For absolutely no reason I have a genuine worry that this will be the game where GO will do the classic struggling manager insane move (the Lage putting Neves to CB moment) and play Hwang.
 
I doubt lightning will strike twice in two seasons, just when we need it most.

I'm expecting a limp defeat to nil personally. Either 1-0 or 2-0.
 
I'd go with DW's team, but expect nothing other than an absolute pasting. Our defence against their attacking movement? Yikes.
 
For absolutely no reason I have a genuine worry that this will be the game where GO will do the classic struggling manager insane move (the Lage putting Neves to CB moment) and play Hwang.

If he does after that performance last night GON deserves everything he's got coming to him
 
If he does after that performance last night GON deserves everything he's got coming to him
It's based on nothing other than managers start to do wierd shit as they sink.

I should be wrong
 
If the midfield 3 are all to start then it has to be in that formation. No shoehorning one out wide / number 10. I have a feeling Gomes played last night because he's not on Saturday, although it's not what I'd do
 
Lots of parallels to the City game last season. Off the back of a poor league start and a League Cup exit shipping three goals, with further tough fixtures on the horizon and us in desperate need of points...

We performed that alchemy last season but I'm less sure we can repeat the trick. We look so vulnerable all the time to everything, can you honestly see us keeping Villa at bay? They did have Europe in midweek but it was a cruise for them as soon as they went 1-0 up, so won't have taken too much out of them.

Left back all depends on fitness, please God let at least one of Toti or Ait-Nouri be fit as I'm in no mood to watch Matt Doherty again. And play a proper three man midfield FFS, we have the players to do it and you don't have to shovel anyone out of position to do it.

-----------------------Johnstone----------------------

Semedo-----------Mosquera------Dawson----Ait-Nouri

-----------------------André-----------------------------

---------------J Gomes--------Lemina-------------------

-----------Forbs-----Strand Larsen----Cunha-------------

2023/24: D 1-1 (H), L 0-2 (A)
2022/23: W 1-0 (H), D 1-1 (A)
2021/22: W 2-1 (H), W 3-2 (A)
2020/21: L 0-1 (H), D 0-0 (A)
2019/20: W 2-1 (H), W 1-0 (A), L 1-2 (A, LC)
2017/18: W 2-0 (H), L 1-4 (A)
2016/17: W 1-0 (H), D 1-1 (A)
2011/12: L 2-3 (H), D 0-0 (A)
2010/11: L 1-2 (H), W 1-0 (A)
2009/10: D 1-1 (H), D 2-2 (A)
2003/04: L 0-4 (H), L 2-3 (A)
1995/96: L 0-1 (A, LC)


This is my team.

But I think GON will start Guedes somewhere.

Probably at left back.
 
Guedes should be first sub for Larsen and no more. We need to play actual wide players, not DMs shoehorned out there.
 
I think it’ll just be a routine defeat ie 2-0 or 3-1, with a peroid of about 30 minutes where we’re not to bad and have a few chances. This is then turned into a 60 minute peroid by those thinking everything isn’t that bad and if we keep playing that we’ll get some wins.
 
Unless Andre comes in and plays at peak Makelele/Kante levels there is no way our midfield will cope with their movement off the ball. And defensively, well, we are a train wreck, so it would be no surprise if Villa scored 4 or 5.
 
The predictions and talk about this fixture just shows how far we’ve dropped.
Remember us making light work of them in the 19/20 season.
 
And to think they were only a dodgy goal line technology failure from probably getting relegated. Lucky bastards!
Understand the point, but they’re not lucky in appointing a good management team, they’re astute.

Amidst the wreckage we’ve somehow still got a squad that should be comfortable enough in this league. With limited work it could be challenging in the upper mid-table which would be where we’d all be more than happy. It’s all about the right manager and coaching staff, and most of the folk who don’t see that couldn’t also see perhaps the most obvious manifestation of a lack of leadership you’ll ever see at the post match trudge at the end of the first Lage season. It’s as clear as you’d like again right now. The cost benefit of getting and keeping a good management team is outrageous. We won’t do it because of reasons, but it doesn’t make it any easier to tolerate.
 
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