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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    That’s a shame, I’ve always considered your contributions as intellectual and interesting. I had a higher opinion of you, I’ll revise you to a member of the echo chamber who can’t debate, but only throw stones going forwards. im sure you won’t be devastated by that, but it was always nice to...
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    Two different conversations- one is whether brexit is good or bad (the truth is that it’s neither absolute, there’s a lot of grey for people who aren’t wedded to a perspective). the second is the Northern Ireland paramilitary position, which is linked but different because of the impact of...
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    Always predictable, absolutely. This was never going to be a smooth rollover - it’s not in the EU’s interests to make it so. and that’s fair enough from their perspective too, if it were smooth, it would make it more persuasive for other countries to do the same in the future. the good Friday...
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    That’s not the conversation here is it? This is a situation in Northern Ireland where one of the paramilitary groups has stated its withdrawing from the agreement.
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    In what way? logically, we would have the same situation we have now, but with less difficulties for the people in Northern Ireland, who are currently struggling to get the same level of food etc that they used to. it won’t go back to being the same as it used to be, it can just be less...
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    It’s entirely possible to solve it if both sides wanted to - it just needs common sense on both sides for example - is there likely to be a mass influx of British food being exported to Northern Ireland, then through Ireland and into Europe? The transport costs alone would push up prices to...
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    it’s definately a big deal that both sides need to work together on to stop becoming a huge issue. no signs of that yet though.
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    I’ve had discussions with TSB before, whilst we tend to be on opposite sides of the argument, he makes his points very well, and doesn’t tend to need to resort to sarcasm.
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    Thank you, I appreciate the rational consideration. this doesn’t mean I think brexit is amazing and perfect by the way, just that there are benefits as well as disbenefits. Anyone who will only see one side is either a fool or deliberately obtuse.
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    Summer 2021 transfer window

    I wouldn’t want lacazette, he’s not very good, and on a lot of money, that’s not a great combination.
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    Coronavirus

    That would actually be quite clever - That alone probably rules it out though!
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    And what is yours? im sure you’re capable of more than just criticism, glib remarks and random swearing. the remain voters on here like to position themselves as superior to the thicky brexiteers, so let’s see some of that intellectual and analytical superiority in action. If we had stayed in...
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    In April, Germany, France, Italy and the Netherlands started negotiating with suppliers for vaccines. The likelihood is that we would have been part of that group if we were still in the EU, theoretically getting a good start, but still part of a block that could get a decent deal. in June, the...
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    Which bit do you disagree with? if it’s “Brexit is what allowed us to handle our vaccine programme differently to the eu.”, what makes you think that if we were still in the EU, we would have been the only country to decline to be part of the pan-eu vaccine programme?
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    Brexit is what allowed us to handle our vaccine programme differently to the eu. as you say, the theory is that any eu country could have gone their own way, the practicality of it is that none of them could. I was reading about Denmark (and Austria) negotiating for Israeli vaccines (eu...
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    I’ve never said anything about either. Anything else I’ve not said you want to bang on about? im happy for you to put me on ignore though, you add nothing to any discussions 😀
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    Haha, you crack on with your straw man, moaning at me for things ive never said. I think that just demonstrates that you can’t put together a reasonable argument. unsuprising though...
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    Show me where I’ve said it does? I’ve talked purely about vaccines.
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    Haha, stay classy! 😘
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    REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

    Again, this is clearly very difficult for you so I’ll try and make it even simpler. legally, no one had to use the vaccine programme. Practically, they all had to due to the eu states acting as a bloc, that’s their commitment Germany actually ordered some vaccines separately but because they...
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