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Societal collapse?

Del Woppio said:
Maybe the wrong thread but I've changed my mind on what I want to happen today. I want Reform to absolutely romp it, and the same next year. Give them 3-4 years in controlling councils, and fucking everything up because their candidate base is massively skewed towards thick as shit racists. Then come the general election, there's a record of failure (and likely controversy) to attack them on, and when margins will be tight it could make all the difference
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I went to Wolverhampton on Tuesday, which I only ever usually do on match days. I was astounded by how run down the city centre is. There was deprivation and poverty everywhere. I think that there has been a Labour majority on the council, since 2011. If this is the case, voting Labour in Wolverhampton has done nothing to improve the living standards of a once proud city. A great city with friendly and generous people has declined so much over the last 30 years and has been let down by national and local politicians alike.
 
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The decline in city centre retail is categorically not the responsibility of Wolverhampton Council with its tory government ruined budget.
It is happening all over the country except in special city centres which are supra regional, tourist, more modern, eg new towns, etc.
It is down to many factors including internet shopping, internet sit at home lives especially after Covid, less money in the pocket, excessive retail rents, ridiculously expensive and inaccessible parking eg due to phone apps, young professionals having tens of thousands of university debt, out of control retail prices and insecure employment. I am sure someone could add to that list.
 
Walshes Wolves said:
I went to Wolverhampton on Tuesday, which I only ever usually do on match days. I was astounded by how run down the city centre is. There was depravity and poverty everywhere. I think that there has been a Labour majority on the council, since 2011. If this is the case, voting Labour in Wolverhampton has done nothing to improve the living standards of a once proud city. A great city with friendly and generous people has declined so much over the last 30 years and has been let down by national and local politicians alike.
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Hi Walshes. I think you might want to change the word 'depravity' to 'deprivation'... ;-)
 
Making all city centre parks after 18:30 charge extortionate prices (and farming them out to RingGo) just to cash in on the Halls is very much the Labour councils choice though.
 
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I work at the Civic and since Covid we've been able to park on St Peter's for free but heard that's ending soon, they have installed machines at the entrance and on Tuesday when I was leaving there were workmen I building a paystation. Currently it costs £15.00 for over 4 hours, see what it will be soon
 
Jack Regan said:
Making all city centre parks after 18:30 charge extortionate prices (and farming them out to RingGo) just to cash in on the Halls is very much the Labour councils choice though.
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Yeah this is significant. Fold street used to be a quid for evening parking. Went to the grand theatre recently one evening & had to pay £9!
 
lemonjelly said:
Yeah this is significant. Fold street used to be a quid for evening parking. Went to the grand theatre recently one evening & had to pay £9!
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I went to Nottingham on Tuesday night £11.50 for 3 hours. I think it's pretty standard now as they know if you are parking at that time of night you are going to an event.
 
Yeah Nottingham City Centre is expensive to park and they charge until 10pm to hit the gig/theatre crowd.

I have parked at Faulkland St for the last few years when going to games and that has now gone to £9+ for over 4 hours which was a big increase.

Now parking in Wolverhampton station car park but need to find an alternative for next season.
 
The fact that people don’t go to the city centre except when there is a match on is part of the problem too - expecting all these mythical shops to just be there waiting for them to deign to visit them once in a blue moon.
 
Stan Hullis said:
Yeah Nottingham City Centre is expensive to park and they charge until 10pm to hit the gig/theatre crowd.

I have parked at Faulkland St for the last few years when going to games and that has now gone to £9+ for over 4 hours which was a big increase.

Now parking in Wolverhampton station car park but need to find an alternative for next season.
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Oxford Street isn’t a long walk, especially if you want to stop in the town for a pint anyway, and is 3 or 4 quid.
 
Jack Regan said:
Making all city centre parks after 18:30 charge extortionate prices (and farming them out to RingGo) just to cash in on the Halls is very much the Labour councils choice though.
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Are you saying that all city centre parks set rates as per council decisions?
I should know about the parking problem as I don't have a UK phone. My German phone has more numbers than is acceptable to these app thieves like RingGo so I cannot use these car parks.
In the bigger picture though, urban councils are damned whatever they do. They have very little money and cannot raise much as their assets have been privatised... but they are supposed to provide, provide, provide. This anti-Labour, anti-traditional city thing is very tory and has been going on for decades.
 
Pretty sure there are quite a few places now where it’s cheaper to get a parking ticket than actually pay for the parking itself in certain circumstances.

I recall about 10 years ago the furore when in the Grand Arcade in Cambridge if you paid the parking fine within a certain timeframe to qualify for the 50% discount it was cheaper going that route than paying for all day, which, I think now is up to almost £5 ph at weekends.

Just got leathered for £100 recently for parking in a pub car park and forgetting to enter the reg number on the touch screen thingy inside. Luckily I’d paid for drinks with the phone and was able to show proof of attendance and successfully appealed, but the whole parking thing has become an absolute racket.
 
I've been told parking tickets from private companies can be ignored and they won't actually ever do any thing. They keep doubling the fine when you don't pay but eventually just give up if you keep ignoring them
 
Martin Lewis would fight you to the death for that
 
EpsomWolf said:
Pretty sure there are quite a few places now where it’s cheaper to get a parking ticket than actually pay for the parking itself in certain circumstances.

I recall about 10 years ago the furore when in the Grand Arcade in Cambridge if you paid the parking fine within a certain timeframe to qualify for the 50% discount it was cheaper going that route than paying for all day, which, I think now is up to almost £5 ph at weekends.

Just got leathered for £100 recently for parking in a pub car park and forgetting to enter the reg number on the touch screen thingy inside. Luckily I’d paid for drinks with the phone and was able to show proof of attendance and successfully appealed, but the whole parking thing has become an absolute racket.
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I got one recently for drop off at an airport. Drove through the pay station (no physical exit barriers to indicate them) without realising. I got a parking charge notice for £100. However, if paid within 28 days of the date the notice was issued the charge is discounted to £5.
 
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