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[sycophantia]

Maybe I just don't care enough.

 

[sycophantia]

Who said they're not allowed? I just think less of them if they rub it in our face and it's not warranted.

That's not what I'm seeing, maybe I'm naive, I just see players celebrating a goal for their new club, no more than that, certainly not rubbing it in our face.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

He was definitely being a dickhead. He celebrated that assist more than any goal I'd seen him score. I could understand if he'd been mistreated or whatever, but that just wasn't the case

Not sure that's true. He's always celebrated goals ridiculously. His goal at Luton, the goal at Anfield that got disallowed because of Jonny's toe, he celebrated that like Marco Tardelli.

 

[prawnking]

Maybe I just don't care enough.

Each to their own.

Personally, I like my football with pettiness, schadenfreude, grudges and wild swings between love and hate, euphoria and despair

 

[prawnking]

Not sure that's true. He's always celebrated goals ridiculously. His goal at Luton, the goal at Anfield that got disallowed because of Jonny's toe, he celebrated that like Marco Tardelli.

Must have missed him playing for Luton or Liverpool before us

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Must have missed him playing for Luton or Liverpool before us

Did you not understand what I said? Or are you being intentionally argumentative?

 

[Langers]

That's not what I'm seeing, maybe I'm naive, I just see players celebrating a goal for their new club, no more than that, certainly not rubbing it in our face.

Same. I'd also find it a bit off if we signed someone and they scored against their old club and didn't celebrate.

I really don't see anything wrong with it - I see it as showing passion for your current club, not disrespect for your old club. Unless you're Adebayor of course.

 

[prawnking]

Did you not understand what I said? Or are you being intentionally argumentative?

Neither.

Your comparison doesn't hold up. Firstly we're talking about an a pretty insignificant assist, not a goal, secondly your analysis of his celebrations ignores the whole point of the conversation; which is that it's against his long-time former club

 

[prawnking]

Same. I'd also find it a bit off if we signed someone and they scored against their old club and didn't celebrate.

I really don't see anything wrong with it - I see it as showing passion for your current club, not disrespect for your old club. Unless you're Adebayor of course.

You'd find it more of an issue if they didn't celebrate?

Why would you care if they show passion for their new club or not? Isn't this a Wolves forum?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Neither.

Your comparison doesn't hold up. Firstly we're talking about an a pretty insignificant assist, not a goal, secondly your analysis of his celebrations ignores the whole point of the conversation; which is that it's against his long-time former club

Del said he has never seen him celebrate a goal in a way similar to how he celebrated that assist.

That isn't true, I gave examples of how that isn't true.

The broader point is that he has always celebrated things emotionally.

I remember him celebrating Doherty's winner against Man City like a mad man, and he wasn't involved in that goal at all.

 

[Del Woppio]

Blimey mate, I didn't expect a total career celebration analysis ffs. Let me rephrase in a way that hopefully won't be taken so weirdly literally:

He celebrated his assist - which was meaningless in the context of the game and Chelsea's season - in a manner that was extremely excited and passionate, when compared to how he often celebrated goals and assists at Wolves. I felt it noteworthy and disrespectful, when compared to the more contemporary choice for players scoring at their previous home, which is to purposely and almost theatrically under-celebrate. I am confused as to why the assist meant so much to him, given we had treated him exceptionally well during his injury, he was well loved by the fans, and the club didn't stand in the way of a big move. He wasn't returning as a reject with something to prove, or as a victim of some injustice desperate for revenge, and as such his response was unusual to say the least.

Drowning the crux of the point in some linguistic semantic soup is just odd.

 

[prawnking]

Del said he has never seen him celebrate a goal in a way similar to how he celebrated that assist.

That isn't true, I gave examples of how that isn't true.

The broader point is that he has always celebrated things emotionally.

I remember him celebrating Doherty's winner against Man City like a mad man, and he wasn't involved in that goal at all.

It's like having a discussion with AI (artificial intelligence, not you Alan)

Del clearly meant it figuratively - the discussion was about going apeshit against your former longtime club who helped you through thick and thin, which is the main factor you're again ignoring

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Was that Chat gpt Del?

I don't think his celebration v Chelsea was out of character for how he celebrated stuff for us, be it goals (Luton and Liverpool), assists or goals he wasn't even involved in (Doherty v City).

I think that's a part of the conversation, no? Particularly when the statement was made that he hasn't celebrated like that for us, that's not semantics, is it?

 

[prawnking]

Oh look, the sun's come out, time to do something else!

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Well.

That was weird.

 

[Jinky]

I'm pleased it's seemingly been done within a week of the season ending and hasn't dragged on (although it feels like it's all we've spoken about for months!).

If our recruitment team have done their job properly, it might actually mean we get some of our incoming business done early. Which is even more important given the overhaul of the squad that needs to take place this summer. I won't hold my breath, though!

 

[PuntsWolf]

Scoring mad solo goals like Luton when down to 10 men away In a relegation battle, scoring your first ever PL goal away at Anfield and being part of one of the best results and comebacks in living memory at home to Man City are not comparable to a bog standard assist for an inconsequential SIXTH goal FFS!

This is before we consider that it was against the team tou were playing for 2 weeks previously for the last 5 years.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

He celebrated that assist more than any goal I'd seen him score.

 

[prawnking]

Yeah, I'm the weird one

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

Oh goody. Another thread going around in circles.