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Seems feasible, although a fight by 2 opposing sides from the same country to gain power still seems like a civil war to me.
Not really. Civil War is about overthrow of what is already there not scrapping about who fills a void.

Although the ACW doesn’t fit into that at all. Of course you could make a spurious argument that one shouldn’t be civil either as the confederacy had seceded and considered itself a separate country!
 
Well you could also argue that wars aren't particularly civil at the best of times
 
Not really. Civil War is about overthrow of what is already there not scrapping about who fills a void.

Although the ACW doesn’t fit into that at all. Of course you could make a spurious argument that one shouldn’t be civil either as the confederacy had seceded and considered itself a separate country!
The Southern states wanted to assert their authority over the federal government so they could abolish federal laws they didn't support, especially laws interfering with the South's right to keep slaves and take them wherever they wished.

Another factor was territorial expansion.

The South wished to take slavery into the western territories, while the North was committed to keeping them open to white labour alone.

The election of a Republican, Abraham Lincoln, as President in 1860 sealed the deal. His victory, without a single Southern electoral vote, was a clear signal to the Southern states that they had lost all influence.

Feeling excluded from the political system, they turned to the only alternative they believed was left to them: secession, a political decision that led directly to war.
 
I know but at the moment of seccession they would argue they are a new country so it isn’t a civil war! Semantics I know.
 
I know but at the moment of seccession they would argue they are a new country so it isn’t a civil war! Semantics I know.
The War for Southern Independence doesn't have the same 'ring to it' though!
 
Interesting stuff on this thread today without it sinking to a who shouts the loudest fest.
Well done folks, I'm actually learning stuff.
 
The rest of Europe barely noticed the English Civil War really. They were a bit busy having a massive scrap in the Thirty Years War (there’s one that certainly had some of its cause in religion by the way).

It is such a shame that our school curriculum doesn’t ever do much about the Thirty Years War. It’s a fascinating part of history especially if you study from the rise of Lutheranism and include the French Wars of Religion as a starter.
 
Arguable that some of the Stephen and Matilda issues in the 1100's/1200's constitute the first civil battles in englend?
 
Oh yeah, had forgotten Stephen and Matilda, been a while since I read the Cadfael books😉
 
14th November

1922 – The British Broadcasting Company begins radio service in the United Kingdom.

The British Broadcasting Company Limited (BBC) was a short-lived British commercial broadcasting company formed on 18 October 1922 by British and American electrical companies doing business in the United Kingdom. Licensed by the British General Post Office, its original office was located on the second floor of Magnet House, the GEC buildings in London and consisted of a room and a small antechamber.

On 14 December 1922, John Reith was hired to become the managing director of the company at that address. The company later moved its offices to the premises of the Marconi Company. The BBC as a commercial broadcasting company did not sell air time but it did carry a number of sponsored programs paid for by British newspapers. On 31 December 1926, the company was dissolved and its assets were transferred to the non-commercial and crown-chartered British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC).

In Britain prior to 1922, the General Post Office (GPO) retained exclusive rights given to it by the government to manage and control all means of mass communication – with the exception of the printed word. The laws which evolved into the Wireless Telegraphy Act of 1947, upon which all modern British communication laws are built in one way or another, concern four essential activities:

  • the establishment of a station for purposes of broadcasting,
  • the use of a station for purposes of broadcasting,
  • the installing of a transmitter or receiver, and the use of a transmitter or receiver.
All four of these activities require a government licence which was originally granted by the General Post Office.

Also on 14th November...

332 BCAlexander the Great is crowned pharaoh of Egypt.
1680 – German astronomer Gottfried Kirch discovers the Great Comet of 1680, the first comet to be discovered by telescope.
1770James Bruce discovers what he believes to be the source of the Nile.
1812Napoleonic Wars: At the Battle of Smoliani, French Marshals Victor and Oudinot are defeated by the Russians under General Peter Wittgenstein.
1851Moby-Dick, a novel by Herman Melville, is published in the USA.
1889 – Pioneering female journalist Nellie Bly (aka Elizabeth Cochrane) begins a successful attempt to travel around the world in less than 80 days. She completes the trip in 72 days.
1910Aviator Eugene Burton Ely performs the first takeoff from a ship in Hampton Roads, Virginia, taking off from a makeshift deck on the USS Birmingham in a Curtiss pusher.
1938 – The Lions Gate Bridge, connecting Vancouver to the North Shore region, opens to traffic.
1940World War II: In England, Coventry is heavily bombed by German Luftwaffe bombers. Coventry Cathedral is almost completely destroyed.
1941 – World War II: The aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal sinks due to torpedo damage from the German submarine U-81 sustained on November 13.
1941 – World War II: German troops, aided by local auxiliaries, murder nine thousand residents of the Słonim Ghetto in a single day.
1952 – The New Musical Express publishes the first regular UK Singles Chart.
1957 – The "Apalachin meeting" in rural Tioga County in upstate New York is raided by law enforcement; many high-level Mafia figures are arrested while trying to flee.
1960Ruby Bridges becomes the first black child to attend an all-white elementary school in Louisiana.
1967 – American physicist Theodore Maiman is given a patent for his ruby laser systems, the world's first laser.
1969Apollo program: NASA launches Apollo 12, the second crewed mission to the surface of the Moon.
1979 – US President Jimmy Carter issues Executive Order 12170, freezing all Iranian assets in the United States in response to the hostage crisis.
1982Lech Wałęsa, the leader of Poland's outlawed Solidarity movement, is released after eleven months of internment near the Soviet border.
1990 – After German reunification, the Federal Republic of Germany and Poland sign a treaty confirming the Oder–Neisse line as the border between Germany and Poland.
1991 – American and British authorities announce indictments against two Libyan intelligence officials in connection with the downing of the Pan Am Flight 103.
2008 – The first G-20 economic summit opens in Washington, D.C.
2012Israel launches a major military operation in the Gaza Strip in response to an escalation of rocket attacks by Hamas.
 
15th November

2001 - Microsoft launches the Xbox game console

The Xbox is a home video game console manufactured by Microsoft that is the first installment in the Xbox series of video game consoles. It was released as Microsoft's first foray into the gaming console market on November 15, 2001, in North America. It is classified as a sixth-generation console, competing with Sony's PlayStation 2 and Nintendo's GameCube. It was also the first major console produced by an American company since the release of the Atari Jaguar in 1993.

With the release of the PlayStation 2, which featured the ability to playback CD-ROMs and DVDs in addition to playing games, Microsoft became concerned that game consoles would threaten the personal computer as an entertainment device for living rooms. Whereas most games consoles to that point were built from custom hardware components, the Xbox was built around standard personal computer components, using variations of Microsoft Windows and DirectX as its operating system to support games and media playback.

The Xbox had a record-breaking launch in North America, selling 1.5 million units before the end of 2001, aided by the popularity of one of the system's launch titles, Halo: Combat Evolved, which sold a million units by April 2002. The system went on to sell a worldwide total of 24 million units, including 16 million in North America; however, Microsoft was unable to make a steady profit off the console, which had a manufacturing price far more expensive than its retail price, despite its popularity, losing over $4 billion during its market life. The system outsold the GameCube but was vastly outsold by the PlayStation 2, which had sold over 100 million units by the system's end of production. It also underperformed outside of the Western market; particularly, it sold poorly in Japan due to its large console size and an overabundance of games marketed towards American audiences instead of Japanese-developed titles. Production of the system was discontinued starting in 2005.

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1777American Revolutionary War: After 16 months of debate the Continental Congress approves the Articles of Confederation.
1864American Civil War: Union General William Tecumseh Sherman begins his March to the Sea.
1920 – The first assembly of the League of Nations is held in Geneva, Switzerland.
1920 – The Free City of Danzig is established.
1938Nazi Germany bans Jewish children from public schools in the aftermath of Kristallnacht.
1942World War II: The Battle of Guadalcanal ends in a decisive Allied victory.
1943The Holocaust: German SS leader Heinrich Himmler orders that Gypsies are to be put "on the same level as Jews and placed in concentration camps.
1969Cold War: The Soviet submarine K-19 collides with the American submarine USS Gato in the Barents Sea.
1969 – Vietnam War: In Washington, D.C., 250,000-500,000 protesters staged a peaceful demonstration against the war, including a symbolic "March Against Death".
1971Intel releases the world's first commercial single-chip microprocessor, the 4004.
1979 – A package from Unabomber Ted Kaczynski begins smoking in the cargo hold of a flight from Chicago to Washington, D.C., forcing the plane to make an emergency landing.
1985 – A research assistant is injured when a package from the Unabomber addressed to a University of Michigan professor explodes.
1985 – The Anglo-Irish Agreement is signed at Hillsborough Castle by British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and Irish Taoiseach Garret FitzGerald.
1988 – Israeli–Palestinian conflict: An independent State of Palestine is proclaimed by the Palestinian National Council.
2012Xi Jinping becomes General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party and a new seven-member Politburo Standing Committee is inaugurated.
2013Sony releases the PlayStation 4 (PS4) game console.
2016Hong Kong's High Court bans elected politicians Yau Wai-ching and Baggio Leung from the city's Parliament.
2020Lewis Hamilton wins the Turkish Grand Prix and secures his seventh drivers' title, equalling the all-time record held by Michael Schumacher.
2022 – The world population reached 8 billion.
 
Oh yeah, had forgotten Stephen and Matilda, been a while since I read the Cadfael books😉
We had an Engineer who worked at the old place who looked like Derek Jacobi, the once he came into the kitchen at break time while we were eating breakfast and told us the introduction of a fix to an annoying issue was delayed as he was having trouble with his CAD file. Weetabix everywhere.
 
16th November

1272 – While travelling during the Ninth Crusade, Prince Edward becomes King of England upon Henry III of England's death, but he will not return to England for nearly two years to assume the throne. This was due partly to his still-poor health, but also to a lack of urgency.The political situation in England was stable after the mid-century upheavals, and Edward was proclaimed king after his father's death, rather than at his own coronation, as had until then been customary.

Edward I also known as Longshanks and the Hammer of the Scots, was King of England from 1272 to 1307. Concurrently, he was Lord of Ireland, and from 1254 to 1306, he ruled Gascony as Duke of Aquitaine in his capacity as a vassal of the French king. He held his coronation on 19 August at Westminster Abbey, alongside Queen Eleanor. Immediately after being anointed and crowned by Robert Kilwardby, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Edward removed his crown, saying that he did not intend to wear it again until he had recovered all the crown lands that his father had surrendered during his reign.

He set about the conquest of Wales; Llywelyn ap Gruffudd enjoyed an advantageous situation in the aftermath of the Barons' War. The 1267 Treaty of Montgomery recognised his ownership of land he had conquered in the Four Cantrefs of Perfeddwlad and his title of Prince of Wales. Llywelyn's younger brother Dafydd and Gruffydd ap Gwenwynwyn of Powys, after failing in an assassination attempt against Llywelyn, defected to the English in 1274. Citing ongoing hostilities and Edward's harbouring of his enemies, Llywelyn refused to do homage to the King. For Edward, a further provocation came from Llywelyn's planned marriage to Eleanor, daughter of Simon de Montfort the Elder.

In November 1276, Edward declared war and in July 1277 Edward invaded with a force of 15,500, of whom 9,000 were Welshmen. The campaign never came to a major battle, and Llywelyn soon realised he had no choice but to surrender. By the Treaty of Aberconwy in November 1277, he was left only with the land of Gwynedd, though he was allowed to retain the title of Prince of Wales.

When war broke out again in 1282, it was an entirely different undertaking. For the Welsh, this war was over national identity, enjoying wide support, provoked particularly by attempts to impose English law on Welsh subjects. For Edward, it became a war of conquest rather than simply a punitive expedition, like the former campaign. The war started with a rebellion by Dafydd, who was discontented with the reward he had received from Edward in 1277. Llywelyn and other Welsh chieftains soon joined in, and initially the Welsh experienced military success. On 6 November, while John Peckham, Archbishop of Canterbury, was conducting peace negotiations, Edward's commander of Anglesey, Luke de Tany, decided to carry out a surprise attack. A pontoon bridge had been built to the mainland, but shortly after Tany and his men crossed over, they were ambushed by the Welsh and suffered heavy losses at the Battle of Moel-y-don. The Welsh advances ended on 11 December, when Llywelyn was lured into a trap and killed at the Battle of Orewin Bridge. The conquest of Gwynedd was complete with the capture in June 1283 of Dafydd, who was taken to Shrewsbury and executed as a traitor the following autumn; Edward ordered Dafydd's head to be publicly exhibited on London Bridge.

Increasingly after 1283, Edward embarked on a project of English settlement of Wales, creating new towns like Flint, Aberystwyth and Rhuddlan. Their new residents were English migrants, the local Welsh being banned from living inside them, and many were protected by extensive walls. An extensive project of castle-building was also initiated, under the direction of James of Saint George, a prestigious architect whom Edward had met in Savoy on his return from the crusade. These included the Beaumaris, Caernarfon, Conwy and Harlech castles, intended to act both as fortresses and royal palaces for the King.

By the 1284 Statute of Rhuddlan, the principality of Wales was incorporated into England and was given an administrative system like the English, with counties policed by sheriffs. English law was introduced in criminal cases, though the Welsh were allowed to maintain their own customary laws in some cases of property disputes. Later in 1284, King Edward had his son Edward (later Edward II) born at Caernarfon Castle, probably to make a deliberate statement about the new political order in Wales. In 1301 at Lincoln, the young Edward became the first English prince to be invested with the title of Prince of Wales, when the King granted him the Earldom of Chester and lands across North Wales.
 
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