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Societal collapse?

"I'm allowed my own recollections and comparisons but you're not" 😅

Every generation has elements of nostalgia and rose-tinted perspectives, but in my case Nottingham centre has deteriorated rapidly in the last five years, for a variety of reasons
 
Tredman said:
I used to walk to school down and alley which was literally wall to wall litter. None of that now.
It's rose tinted bullshit, next you'll be saying remember rickets, weren't that great.
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Where was that then?
There was definitely some bad areas when i was younger too, going through Aston on the way to Uni, but nothing like I've seen recently. England is a shit hole.
 
prawnking said:
"I'm allowed my own recollections and comparisons but you're not" 😅

Every generation has elements of nostalgia and rose-tinted perspectives, but in my case Nottingham centre has deteriorated rapidly in the last five years, for a variety of reasons
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No rose tinted perspectives from me. Just observations tinged with a sadness.
Self respect and respect for where you live counts for a lot.
 
Wolftone said:
Dunno. I don't think there was the amount of litter and graffiti when I was younger Say late '70's-'80's.
I was brought up on a council estate, people still had respect for their area kept their front gardens tidy, cleaned their windows etc, even though we didn't own our own houses.
If you want to celebrate the filth, go ahead. I don't.
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Yet the 'Keep Britain Tidy' campaign was launched in the 50s IIRC.
 
Tredman said:
I used to walk to school down and alley which was literally wall to wall litter. None of that now.
It's rose tinted bullshit, next you'll be saying remember rickets, weren't that great.
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There are some places worse, some better.

Parts of Birmingham now are desperate, I didnt feel nervous wandering around Birmingham 20 years ago, i do now.
 
I suspect a lot of has to do with more properties being rented now than before
 
There are numerous reasons/excuses no doubt. At the end of the day it comes down to individual responsibility and the local community.
No one else is going to help you.
I just find it sad and shameful tbh.
 
AndyWolves said:
I suspect a lot of has to do with more properties being rented now than before
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The biggest influencer on home ownership in the 80s and 90s was the 'Right to Buy'. By 1991 more than a million (discounted) properties were sold to the tenants.
 
leedswolf said:
The biggest influencer on home ownership in the 80s and 90s was the 'Right to Buy'. By 1991 more than a million (discounted) properties were sold to the tenants.
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A quick Google suggests the % of properties which are rented has doubled since 2003
 
Turning into politics is bollocks. Most (but not all) where I was brought up were Labour supporters, from all over the country, grateful for a council house after ww2, meeting local girls where they were stationed. Self respecting people. People with standards. Nothing to do with politics.
 
AndyWolves said:
It's more that people renting are less likely to take care of properties than owner / occupiers.
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That kind of proves the point of those that say it's worse now. I was bought up in a council house and none of them were neglected, quite the opposite.
 
I'll be walking back to the apartment we're staying in from Northampton town centre after the utd game finishes. I could take some pics if anyones interested? 😂
It's bad but not quite as bad as the walk to Franklin's Gardens earlier.
 
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