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The way you're talking here PK (the aggression) reminds me of when you were telling us how wrong we were for thinking Israel were being OTT.
 
prawnking said:
It's their vote so who on earth are you to pontificate about what other peoples best interests are?

Last bite from me
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Right, so I can't have an opinion on whether Brexit, voting in Johnson and Trump twice was in the best interests of the people who voted for it?
 
The thing with this administration is that if you’re in a Mexican standoff with them and put down your gun, they’re not putting down theirs, they’re picking up yours.

Now they have two and you have none. And you ain’t voting from the jail or grave they send you to.
 
Can we keep a little civility in the discourse please gents.

While there are a lot of good points being made I don't think we need to be resorting to calling each other names, or throwing veiled insults out.

Thanks
 
Dire Wolf said:
Are you fucking dense? Don't bother answering that, I think the proof is there in your posts. You do know that when opposing something you're fighting against it? That when people opposed apartheid for instance, demonstrations against it were part of the 'fight against apartheid'. The violence I referenced was, valid on current evidence, the supposition that any opposition through mass protest was highly likely to met with a violent response from the Trump regime. And the question I posed was whether that would quell the protests or lead to more protests as a response.

If you can't understand that point, but want instead to spin it to fit your pre-determined opinion, knock yourself out genius.
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So you're now saying what you actually meant was that peaceful protest is more likely to stop Trump's agenda and even get him out of the White House than anything that could be mustered politically or legally?

How does that work then?
 
I already think we're past the point of "democracy" to get Trump out, his acts already are trampling over democracy.

Just waiting 4 years is incredibly dangerous, but that's what everyone has to do - apparently.
 
MLK was also not Gandhi. His legacy has been horrifically whitewashed. He understood all too well that violence is as much a reaction as it is a choice.

A riot is the voice of the unheard.
 
🚨TRUMP CIRCUS LATEST🚨: Huge concerns for allies of the US continue to pile up as it is revealed that former Fox News host and current actual Defense Secretary Pete ‘accidentally sending classified information to a journalist in a Signal group’ Hegseth has been bringing his wife (another former Fox host) to sensitive military meetings despite her having zero official role or clearance. He has also promoted his brother, a right-wing podcaster, to a senior position inside the Pentagon.
 
leedswolf said:
🚨TRUMP CIRCUS LATEST🚨: Huge concerns for allies of the US continue to pile up as it is revealed that former Fox News host and current actual Defense Secretary Pete ‘accidentally sending classified information to a journalist in a Signal group’ Hegseth has been bringing his wife (another former Fox host) to sensitive military meetings despite her having zero official role or clearance. He has also promoted his brother, a right-wing podcaster, to a senior position inside the Pentagon.
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FFS.
 
So when the EU had 10% tarriffs on US cars and the US had 2.5% on EU cars, most people thought it was OK. For me it just demonstrates how easily manipulated by the media, to follow party lines and not think for themselves, people are.
It is true Trump is a cunt and I think cutting foreign aid and deporting immigrants without a trial is wrong, but on tarriffs many of those complaining now, were OK with tarriffs when they were in our favour.

ec.europa.eu

Statement by President von der Leyen on announced US tariffs

I deeply regret the US decision to impose tariffs on European steel and aluminum exports. \nTariffs are taxes - bad for business, worse for consumers.\nUnjustified tariffs on the EU will not go unanswer
ec.europa.eu ec.europa.eu
 
So you are happy for foreign states to subsidise industries, selling their goods into international markets at below market rates jeopardising the same industries in those countries? What happens if those manufacturers go bust and allow a monopoly from what was once state subsidised goods? They have the world by the bollocks and can charge what they like.
 
Sniffer said:
So you are happy for foreign states to subsidise industries, selling their goods into international markets at below market rates jeopardising the same industries in those countries? What happens if those manufacturers go bust and allow a monopoly from what was once state subsidised goods? They have the world by the bollocks and can charge what they like.
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We seem to have no problem with China doing this.
 
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