Wolves History Thread

[Lycan]

Fair enough but even still, Gomes is a better player and a better fit for that formation.

If you talk about fit then you'd have Sá over Murray as well. Murray is obviously a much better keeper but as bad as Sá is with his feet Murray was a million times worse.

 

[Alan]

Tbf I don’t think Sá’s footballing ability is what his biggest problem is.

 

[Lycan]

Tbf I don’t think Sá’s footballing ability is what his biggest problem is.

It was definitely Murray's biggest weakness. He could barely kick the ball in a straight line bless him. He could throw it further than he could kick it.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Incredibly we've had two who were even worse for it, with no redeeming features to make up for it (Jones and Lonergan)

 

[Lycan]

Postma was shit as well

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Incredibly we've had two who were even worse for it, with no redeeming features to make up for it (Jones and Lonergan)

Patricio's distribution his first season was unbelievably bad for an established International keeper, it did improve, but was still a case of blamming it to Doc/Donck.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

To me it seems the kind of thing you *can* work at if you want to?! Not saying you can become Ederson but you can surely become at least competent rather than having a rubber leg.

 

[Alan]

It was definitely Murray's biggest weakness. He could barely kick the ball in a straight line bless him. He could throw it further than he could kick it.

I'd take that if it meant never going so walkabout that you're 3 yards out of position.

I've said before and will say again that the gap between Kristijan Kahlina (Charlotte's keeper) and José Sá is unacceptably small from Wolves' POV.

 

[KiwiWolf61]

Definitely Hwang for me.

Alex Rae was exactly what we needed at the time but we'll end up selling João Gomes to a top team for £50-60M and he'll easily go on to make 20+ appearances for the Brazilian national team. They're just not in the same league.

Murray & Lescott were the only 2 from that era of a similar quality to what we have in our best XI

Interesting discussion this but I fully concur with Lycan - it was a tragedy that we only got one game out of the 2 in 03/04.

As for Murray - the best shot stopper I've ever seen play for Wolves - and his weakness I'm sure would be corrected to some degree by today's coaches. The need for keepers to be able to play with the feet has changed massively in the last 20 years.

I'd have Alex Rae as a squad option (loved the player) but Lemina and Gomes are simply at the next level. Although if you want a goal scoring midfielder the best we've had in my lifetime, by far, was Kenny Hibbitt.

Again Ndah could be a squad option especially with his space and control (prior to his debilitating injuries). Our other forwards from the period just weren't quite good enough for the Premier League. Remember we would have had high hopes for SEB but he never quite could make a mark in the Premier League.

 

[leedswolf]

Although if you want a goal scoring midfielder the best we've had in my lifetime

Jim McCalliog?

 

[sycophantia]

McCalliog was good but don't think he scored as many as Hibbit.

 

[KiwiWolf61]

McCalliog was good but don't think he scored as many as Hibbit.

Referencing the outstanding site https://wolvescompletehistory.co.uk - Jimmy Mac played 204 games for Wolves and scored 48 goals - a very good return.

He was also the best penalty taker for Wolves (along with Raul Jiménez) in my time following Wolves. Funnily enough their penalty taking technique was quite similar.

Kenny Hibbitt played 552 games for 114 goals.

Similar goals per game ratio although Kenny's goal output declined quite a bit post 1980 - as he played more defensively in midfield.

Kenny famously scored all 4 goals in a game against Newcastle in 74/75 and he also scored another hat trick against Luton in the same season.

Loved both players and very much enjoyed their autobiographies.

 

[ROVERT47]

Nice to see Sturridge ‘cabbaging’ in that game against Sheffield United before it became popular.

 

[leedswolf]

McCalliog was good but don't think he scored as many as Hibbit.

He didn't play anywhere near as many games as Hibbitt...

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Interesting discussion this but I fully concur with Lycan - it was a tragedy that we only got one game out of the 2 in 03/04.

As for Murray - the best shot stopper I've ever seen play for Wolves - and his weakness I'm sure would be corrected to some degree by today's coaches. The need for keepers to be able to play with the feet has changed massively in the last 20 years.

I'd have Alex Rae as a squad option (loved the player) but Lemina and Gomes are simply at the next level. Although if you want a goal scoring midfielder the best we've had in my lifetime, by far, was Kenny Hibbitt.

Again Ndah could be a squad option especially with his space and control (prior to his debilitating injuries). Our other forwards from the period just weren't quite good enough for the Premier League. Remember we would have had high hopes for SEB but he never quite could make a mark in the Premier League.

I’d take Rae over 2024 Lemina but not 2023.

 

[Tony Towner]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1785242421367885978

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

20 years ago today. A very young Leon Osman for them and two excellent goals for us in reply.

Still effectively relegated at FT due to results elsewhere.

 

[KiwiWolf61]

20 years ago today. A very young Leon Osman for them and two excellent goals for us in reply.

Still effectively relegated at FT due to results elsewhere.

One of our better performances in that season.

Interestingly enough, after the completion of the round, Wolves were in 18th position 6pts and goal difference below 17th . . . and who were 17th . . . Man City ! ! !

And in 16th place were Spurs.

Premier League 2003/2004 - 36. Round

Premier League 2003/2004 » 36. Round (Table & Results)

www.worldfootball.net

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Interestingly enough, after the completion of the round, Wolves were in 18th position 6pts and goal difference below 17th . . . and who were 17th . . . Man City ! ! !

Should have done the double over City. Won 1-0 at home (our first PL win) and were 3-2 up away deep into injury time having also missed a penalty. Corner to them, straight to Kennedy, head it anywhere....except straight to Wright-Phillips who rifled it in from 20 yards.

 

[KiwiWolf61]

Yup just rewatched the highlights of that game - should have won.

It was a good finish by Wright-Phillips but for me it was less Kennedy's header out to him but no-one was within 15 yards of him.