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Boris at it again and the contest to replace the lying c***

How can you drop the reversing part of the test?!! Probably the most important part of an HGV drivers job, and the most difficult to get right.

Gonna be some great backing onto loading bays and down side streets.

Says here they won't have to learn how to couple/uncouple and none of it will be tested by a 3rd party.

"Tests will be made shorter, with the reversing exercise element removed and the uncoupling and recoupling exercise for trailer tests removed - and they will not have to be tested separately by a third party".

What a shit show that will be.
 
Just in time for winter roads and traffic too
 
The Bear said:
How can you drop the reversing part of the test?!! Probably the most important part of an HGV drivers job, and the most difficult to get right.

Gonna be some great backing onto loading bays and down side streets.

Says here they won't have to learn how to couple/uncouple and none of it will be tested by a 3rd party.

"Tests will be made shorter, with the reversing exercise element removed and the uncoupling and recoupling exercise for trailer tests removed - and they will not have to be tested separately by a third party".

What a shit show that will be.
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Taking back control, innit?!
 
Perhaps they're going to try and implement a similar system to like what gets used in shipping where you have pilots at ports to handle the tricky bits they're familiar with and the ships' captains do the long slogs in between.

Would probably take a chunk out of the already stretched talent pool to have a bunch of captive drivers stuck at big hubs just to back wagons in and then hook up trailers for other people to drive away.
 
I unfortunately had to watch at least 20 trucks doing 3-point turns on the motorway on Tuesday. If they had had to wait for a special pilot to turn up and do it for them I’d still be sat on the motorway now.
 
Sounds like either bad driving or bad management of clearing the build up. An artic should be able to turn in a circle of diameter no greater than it's own length I think, trying to remember some vehicle tracking diagrams. So if they can get perpendicular to the road mid 3 point turn then they should've been capable of swinging it round in one, as long as they started wide enough and were provided with a clear section of road by moving other vehicles first.
 
MARKakaJIM said:
Sounds like either bad driving or bad management of clearing the build up. An artic should be able to turn in a circle of diameter no greater than it's own length I think, trying to remember some vehicle tracking diagrams. So if they can get perpendicular to the road mid 3 point turn then they should've been capable of swinging it round in one, as long as they started wide enough and were provided with a clear section of road by moving other vehicles first.
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Should be able to turn in the length of the trailer, when needed, not advisable when the 1st and 3rd trailer axles are rotating in different directions and the middle axle is just scrubbing
 
We have a tight entrance gate to our yard where artics have to reverse in and do a swift 90 degree turn in reverse to avoid the skips and side of the warehouse. Going to be fun with untrained drivers, although to be fair we only use Clive Cowern trucks now and their drivers all seem pretty competent.
 
Plus the insurance premiums of all the hauliers will rocket with all the bumps from undertrained drivers. A new tractor is about £100k, plus the trailer is thousands. These are not toys.
 
Keef said:
pauls loving this putting us all right regards HGVs and our vague knowledge of them, I just read his replies in an adenoidal voice for the full effect.
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Tbf it makes a change from people putting us right on every subject under the sun with fuckall knowledge 😁
 
sycophantia said:
Many would have benefitted from a final salary pension? I think most won't have and there are a lot who only have the state pension. Certainly of the 30 or so close friends I have, only 3 or 4 have a final salary pension
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Yes mostly public sector. There has always been a divide between private and public. If you complain, you were an asshole for calling for a ' race to the bottom' . The public sector bleeds money from the taxpayer. Some will always be more equal than others I suppose.

Any case. Cost demand and tax to meet the supply. Easy.
 
If you think the public sector is more equal you might want to google pay freezes.
 
Yep as a Civil Servant I'd not had a pay increase above 1% (apart from getting a promotion) since prior to 2010 until this year. And that has only come at a serious erosion to my terms and conditions.
 
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Yep as a Civil Servant I'd not had a pay increase above 1% (apart from getting a promotion) since prior to 2010 until this year. And that has only come at a serious erosion to my terms and conditions.
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I feel your pain regarding pay rises but you'll still have a helluva pension, although not as good as 10 years ago......that's not intended as a criticism btw
 
sycophantia said:
I feel your pain regarding pay rises but you'll still have a helluva pension, although not as good as 10 years ago......that's not intended as a criticism btw
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Just gotta stick it out for another 25 years first, which currently doesn't seem likely.
 
Papper said:
Yes mostly public sector. There has always been a divide between private and public. If you complain, you were an asshole for calling for a ' race to the bottom' . The public sector bleeds money from the taxpayer. Some will always be more equal than others I suppose.

Any case. Cost demand and tax to meet the supply. Easy.
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Those people were right.
 
They've never had to scrape by, why would they know anything? Thick as pig shit
 
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