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It’s not just the red paint, did they put anything else in there? Like a screwdriver? The engines going to have to be checked, or even dropped and stripped down for internal damage, $22-35 MILLION they cost.
Did they attach a device activated by a baromatic device ( explosive automatically triggered by low air pressure at altitude) all this shit has to be checked, it’s not just wipe the paint off it’ll be fine
 
The Saturday Boy said:
It was red paint. I am pretty sure a competent engineer would have been able to see it.

But as you didn't answer the question, directly you do appear to think the women at Greenham Common Peace Camp were terrorists because they did damage to MOD property too.

Those bridges..paid for by the taxpayer.
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Sorry missed it.
No i don't think the women at greenham common were terrorists.
They attacked fences, from the outside ffs., oh and the tax payers bridges didn't fly at over 30,00 ft, with nice people in them. But they did, for obvious safety reasons annoyingly close and disrupt motorway traffic affecting ordinary folk trying to get on with their lives.
Yet i don't see any of them as terrorists, sorry, i see them as like it or not people using their right to protest, even if i don't agree with their methods.
but i hope this helps you get the point as i see it , personally, no bridges involved my end.
 
Keef said:
It’s not just the red paint, did they put anything else in there? Like a screwdriver? The engines going to have to be checked, or even dropped and stripped down for internal damage, $22-35 MILLION they cost.
Did they attach a device activated by a baromatic device ( explosive automatically triggered by low air pressure at altitude) all this shit has to be checked, it’s not just wipe the paint off it’ll be fine
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Planes get checked all the time as a matter of routine. Yes there is a cost, but it is not terrorism. Whether I agree with their actions or not is irrelevant to my opinion as to whether it is terrorism. It is not and it is a slippery slope for a government to say it is.
 
So vandalising equipment that is used by the country to defend its citizens, or help them evacuate an area in an emergency isn’t terrorism.
Using your logic, when the IRA attacked British army helicopters in Northern Ireland, or did The Hyde park attack killing four soldiers, that wasn’t terrorism either, I guess the M62 coach bombing wasn’t either.
When would attacking military equipment become terrorism in your mind?
 
Would it be a slippery slope to declare it as terrorism on military equipment?
I feel it needs a tougher sentence for deterrence instant five years in prison, that sort of thing.
 
Because that is the definition of terrorism then obviously yes.

Spraying paint doesn't scare people about what you might do next. Nail bombs against the military does.
 
Fair enough, thanks for that,
I can do reasonable some times rather than just shouty
 
Oh good American planes have bombed 3 targets in Iran just to turn the heat up a bit higher on an already boiling hot situation
 
I really don’t know what happened at Brize although I have been told that the military base guard team fucked up… someone is going to spent time in Colchester for this fuck up.

I’ve been accessing RAF Leeming for some time. Car pass must be displayed (or you must go into the Guardroom to get a day pass) then you must have valid ID. Brize fucked up big time and someone will pay for that
 
Whether or not it’s terrorism depends entirely on their motives, IMV.
 
Alan said:
Whether or not it’s terrorism depends entirely on their motives, IMV.
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Entry on to a military base is restricted no matter where in the World you are. If you break in for any reason you should expect to either be shot, or punished in some way. It aint a joke
 
darlowolf64 said:
Entry on to a military base is restricted no matter where in the World you are. If you break in for any reason you should expect to either be shot, or punished in some way. It aint a joke
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I said as much earlier.

They’re absolutely criminals and should be prosecuted severely. It’s just whether or not they should be perceived as “terrorists”, that’s all.
 
darlowolf64 said:
Entry on to a military base is restricted no matter where in the World you are. If you break in for any reason you should expect to either be shot, or punished in some way. It aint a joke
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For a criminal offence. That is trespass, not terrorism.
 
I think protestors generally have been increasingly effective and troublesome to the authorities and no government is going to sit back and allow the sort of disruption and chaos being caused irrespective of whether it falls between the gaps of legitimate right to protest, criminal damage or terrorism.

People are passionate about their causes and are quick to downplay any negative impact on others as ‘a bit of inconvenience’, but tbh blocking roads, airports, any type of infrastructure, or anything that stops anyone going about their lawful business spills beyond legitimate protest and needs robust legislation which is ultimately effective.

Protestors seem to want to have their cake and eat it but to some extent we’re all becoming victims of their success.
 
Keef said:
So vandalising equipment that is used by the country to defend its citizens, or help them evacuate an area in an emergency isn’t terrorism.
Using your logic, when the IRA attacked British army helicopters in Northern Ireland, or did The Hyde park attack killing four soldiers, that wasn’t terrorism either, I guess the M62 coach bombing wasn’t either.
When would attacking military equipment become terrorism in your mind?
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That's not my logic. Please don't misrepresent me in this way.
 
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