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Jeremy Corbyn

If the Tories or Labour came up with a sensible alternative then fine. But they haven't, so lets bin it.

Sadly both Johnson and Corbyn lack the balls to say that what was wanted is not deliverable
 
I want Brexit to be binned, but it needs to be done democratically - either by a Party winning a GE on that platform or another referendum. You can't give people the option and not enact it without letting them be a part of that decision. It's as bollocks now as it was then, the only thing which has really changed is the unrealistic promises have been shown up for what they are. Arbitrarily cancelling it will just add to the division.
 
Tony Towner said:
I want Brexit to be binned, but it needs to be done democratically - either by a Party winning a GE on that platform or another referendum. You can't give people the option and not enact it without letting them be a part of that decision. It's as bollocks now as it was then, the only thing which has really changed is the unrealistic promises have been shown up for what they are. Arbitrarily cancelling it will just add to the division.
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Yep.
 
The division is permanent anyway. Stopping it doesn’t change that. But it stops an economic buttfuck.
 
Yep. I will never not think Brexiters are fucking idiots.
 
Templeton Peck said:
You don't expect much from governments do you?
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Why should we depend on a bunch of people to make decisions and tell us how to live our lives?

One of the biggest travesties of the last 20 years is the increasing excuse and blame culture. I wish people would take responsibility for their own actions, habits and communities rather than a bunch of professional speakers, speech writers and faceless advisers.

The more minimal government is the better off we all will be.
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
That's a strange thing to say.

I certainly expect their ideas to actually work financially. I see some great thoughts in Corbyn's speech. Loads of laudable stuff. Loads of it. But my big concern is how ALL of them at one go is going to be economically viable. Might it have been better to take SOME of the concepts and make sure they were entirely viable, rather than listing a wish list where surely fair sized chunks of it will just have to fall by the wayside?
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Which is fine provided that it's looked at properly and not through the prism of household or business economics.

Osborne got the BoE to create £375bn and the sky didn't fall in.
UK National Debt has increased from 49% of GDP in 2009 to 85% now. Again - sky hasn't fallen in.
We lost our Standard & Poors AAA credit rating 3 years ago - sky hasn't fallen in.

In fact, if you invest in the real economy you'll grow it thanks to the multiplier effect unlike Osborne who used the £375bn he created to mainly help shareholders.
 
I agree that you shouldn’t look at running a national budget like a household one. Absolutely. Two very different entities.

Saying that, there has to be some element of financial prudence and clear costings for the ideas being put forward or the electorate just isn’t going to believe them.
 
The reason the sky didn't fall in is that interest rates are at historic lows, and the economy is in reasonable shape.

Post Brexit, neither of those things may hold true.
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
I agree that you shouldn’t look at running a national budget like a household one. Absolutely. Two very different entities.

Saying that, there has to be some element of financial prudence and clear costings for the ideas being put forward or the electorate just isn’t going to believe them.
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Agreed. Or you need to try and change the way we talk about public spending. Very difficult though tbf.
 
Laura Piddock embarrassing herself and the Labour Party on C4 news. How on earth do intellectual Pygmy's like this get elected?
 
No idea how she was voted in but she gets along because she's a proper Corbyn fangirl.
 
Corbyn's leadership and lack of action on anti-semitism blamed in the resignation letter of prominent Jewish Labour MP Dame Louise Ellman.

At some point Labour, Momentum and all the socialist acolytes will have to do something or watch their party pushed to the same margins as UKIP.

Of course there will still be some who say it's better that she's gone and the cult of Corbyn will still continue.
 
She was probably secretly a Lib Dem and therefore a Tory anyway, good riddance they say.
 
Johnny75 said:
Of course there will still be some who say it's better that she's gone and the cult of Corbyn will still continue.
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Plenty of that.

we live in despressing times and no clear vision on when that will end
 
Johnny75 said:
Corbyn's leadership and lack of action on anti-semitism blamed in the resignation letter of prominent Jewish Labour MP Dame Louise Ellman.

At some point Labour, Momentum and all the socialist acolytes will have to do something or watch their party pushed to the same margins as UKIP.

Of course there will still be some who say it's better that she's gone and the cult of Corbyn will still continue.
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Nothing to do with her facing deselection I'm sure.
 
Actually, almost CERTAINLY nothing to do with her facing deselection is it?

But keep on loving the cult of the leader.
 
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