Keir Starmer at it again..

[Walshes Wolves]

I agree with Starmers here.



“We stand ready to use industrial policy to help shelter British business from the storm,”

“Some people may feel uncomfortable about this – the idea the state should intervene directly to shape the market has often been derided,” he says.

“But we simply cannot cling on to old sentiments when the world is turning this fast.”

 

[Walshes Wolves]

Treasury minister, David Jones says, globalisation era over

Treasury minister Darren Jones says globalisation era over after Trump tariffs

Sir Keir Starmer has suggested there could be state intervention to protect UK business from tariffs introduced by Donald Trump.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[The Saturday Boy]

I agree with Starmers here.



“We stand ready to use industrial policy to help shelter British business from the storm,”

“Some people may feel uncomfortable about this – the idea the state should intervene directly to shape the market has often been derided,” he says.

“But we simply cannot cling on to old sentiments when the world is turning this fast.”

You agree that he doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about? The state has been directly intervening in the market to a greater or lesser extent ever since the market was invented. The extent of direct intervention has often been debated but never the idea (other than by nutjob free market exponents).

The NHS is a direct state intervention in the market as one obvious example.

He’s just stringing words together to make it sound like he’s in control.

 

[Walshes Wolves]

You agree that he doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about? The state has been directly intervening in the market to a greater or lesser extent ever since the market was invented. The extent of direct intervention has often been debated but never the idea (other than by nutjob free market exponents).

The NHS is a direct state intervention in the market as one obvious example.

He’s just stringing words together to make it sound like he’s in control.

I think what he means is more intervention, than what we are used to and also the problem with the NHS is creeping privatisation and trusts. I hope this means that we will see a reversal of this and the sooner the better.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

I think what he means is more intervention, than what we are used to and also the problem with the NHS is creeping privatisation and trusts. I hope this means that we will see a reversal of this and the sooner the better.

He means tax increases but won’t say it. No matter what he does, it is paid for by tax increases.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Not corrupt.

NHS trusts hand Tony Blair's tech pal Larry Ellison £1.5bn contract

Contracts worth £3 billion to create digital health records have been awarded to two US tech giants despite lower offers from UK-based suppliers.

www.thisismoney.co.uk

 

[Tredman]

Tenders, rightly, should not always go to the lowest bid.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Tenders, rightly, should not always go to the lowest bid.

No, they should go to one the cronies...

 

[Tredman]

No, they should go to one the cronies...

Hardly, if you are going appoint a company to manage a fuck off huge database then you’d probably expect it to be Oracle.

 

[AndyWolves]

Oracle licensing is a ball ache of the highest order, I hope they know what they're doing.

 

[leedswolf]

Remember Keir Starmers 10 pledges when he was running to be leader?

https://www.clpd.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Keir-Starmers-10-Pledges.pdf

 

[Tony Towner]

Stewart Lee
"Like most north London champagne socialists, I am increasingly disappointed, for example, by the endless wrong choices of Keir Starmer, who I voted for hoping he would allow me to pay lip service to progressive values while making minimal negative impact on my own standard of living and hoarded assets. That went well. Having been handed a blank cheque by a disillusioned electorate, Starmer has instead just drawn a fat ejaculating penis on it and left it on the worktop by the waste caddy to get smeared with old stinky food."

Plus more serious points about Trump appeasement

Orange Juice? Keir Starmer is on the Kool-Aid | Stewart Lee

Instead of standing up to Trump, the PM is encouraging people who want to destroy our values to come and do it in our country at reduced tax rates

www.theguardian.com

 

[Templeton Peck]

Remember Keir Starmers 10 pledges when he was running to be leader?

https://www.clpd.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Keir-Starmers-10-Pledges.pdf

Every bit as comfortable with lying as Boris. But it's Starmer so it's fine apparently.

 

[Templeton Peck]

He's also hollowing out the state, flogging it off to Blackrock and creating 'enterprise' zones. Joy.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

So the supercars, the most polluting of cars, are fine.

I wonder why....

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Because it's impractical to expect such small companies to make that transition?

 

[Kenny]

Technically nothing changed for AM or McLaren. 2035 was still the end date for petrol/diesel as Labour hadn't acted on the change they said they would make. Instead they went into a consultation period with manufacturers, BVRLA etc and this is the outcome.

McLaren sell less than a 1000 vehicles a year and most of them are sold outside the UK. AM probably 5-6000 a year with a high % outside the UK. Presume whacking a battery in a supercar is a complex issue with regards to how people who are buying them feel. If you are spending 300k+ I guess you want a supercar and not a very quick car that sounds like a milk float. So allowing them an extra 5 years is a little bit of protection for their business model.

As it stands, the 2035 cut off still stands for them.

 

[Tredman]

Technically nothing changed for AM or McLaren. 2035 was still the end date for petrol/diesel as Labour hadn't acted on the change they said they would make. Instead they went into a consultation period with manufacturers, BVRLA etc and this is the outcome.

McLaren sell less than a 1000 vehicles a year and most of them are sold outside the UK. AM probably 5-6000 a year with a high % outside the UK. Presume whacking a battery in a supercar is a complex issue with regards to how people who are buying them feel. If you are spending 300k+ I guess you want a supercar and not a very quick car that sounds like a milk float. So allowing them an extra 5 years is a little bit of protection for their business model.

As it stands, the 2035 cut off still stands for them.

Pfft, away with your sense this is only happening as Tony Blair drives a mclaren.

 

[Kenny]

Pfft, away with your sense

Off brand for me I know!

Spend a ridiculous amount of my time each week talking about ZEV, EV, PHEV and other capital letters grouped together.

The 2030 move was an optimistic call from Labour so actually very pleased they took a step back and involved those who will be impacted to come up with a slightly better plan. Never going to have a perfect way to move to full EV.

Now if they can look at what price should be classed as expensive that would be handy.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Because it's impractical to expect such small companies to make that transition?

No, so the super rich still get their toys.