Keir Starmer at it again..

[Mel Evo]

Unless I'm missing something in the detail behind the headline, stopping giving Visas for foreign born care workers is not the response to the rise of Reform the country needs. It'll just leave an even bigger shortage in the sector

Only people from Lincolnshire are allowed to apply for care home jobs now. Promises made, promises kept.

 

[Jack Regan]

More Reform-lite crap that will do nothing positive and achieve even less.

They need to offer something different or fuck off altogether. This won't sway anyone who's already going to vote reform to do anything other than still vote Reform.

 

[Tony Towner]

More Reform light crap that will do nothing positive and achieve even less.

They need to offer something different or fuck off altogether. This won't sway anyone who's already going to vote reform to do anything other than still vote Reform.

I think that's the case with the traditional Tory vote, I think the Labour one can be won back and probably needs to be in the next 4 years. This isn't the policy though it needs to be around channel crossings in a meaningful way, not a stunt like Rwanda. The numbers are relatively low in the grand scheme of overall immigration, but that's the lightning rod

 

[Tredman]

Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. People are moaning that meaningful change hasn’t happened yet so you end up with the publicity stunts like this nonsense.

 

[Hereford Wolf]

Labour continue to disappoint. What are they thinking?

 

[Wellen Wolf]

Labour continue to disappoint. What are they thinking?

Multiple decades of Conservative misrule has:

* reinforced the royal family, aristocracy, landowners, the establishment, billionaires, MSM and the public schools
* made policies and laws that look after and lock in their own
* reduced the state and local government
* become more and more beholden to the rogues gallery in The City and in the tax havens that took us out of the EU
* put placemen and women in multiple key roles

Starmer and Labour will not be in a position to do anything necessary until there's been corresponding decades of Labour government and the undoing of this wretched state of affairs in the UK. All they are permitted to do at the moment is move along with some kind of middle of the right side of the road governance for the vested and ingrained interest groups mentioned above.

 

[Tony Towner]

Without giving an opinion on the policies, the 3 most high profile to date are:
Taxes on farms
Removing winter fuel payments
Putting VAT on public schools

All are a choice and nothing to do with the above as is the carers announcement today - in fact at least one contradicts it.
No doubt they are hamstrung by infrastructure and funding issues, but your post gives too much of a free pass.

 

[Wellen Wolf]

Without giving an opinion on the policies, the 3 most high profile to date are:
Taxes on farms
Removing winter fuel payments
Putting VAT on public schools

All are a choice and nothing to do with the above as is the carers announcement today - in fact at least one contradicts it.
No doubt they are hamstrung by infrastructure and funding issues, but your post gives too much of a free pass.

Free pass? I respectfully suggest you study how the country is controlled by the permanent and growing vested interests and not by temporary government actors who are extremely limited in their real power.
Edit. Am I misunderstanding as it is late or are you suggesting that putting VAT on public schools is not influenced by decades of Conservative support of The City, the establishment, public schools and policies and laws that look after and lock in Tory control of the country?

 

[Walshes Wolves]

Unless I'm missing something in the detail behind the headline, stopping giving Visas for foreign born care workers is not the response to the rise of Reform the country needs. It'll just leave an even bigger shortage in the sector

Care homes charge colossal amounts of money to care for residents. If they paid a decent wage to the care workers, then they would attract more local workers.

 

[Del Woppio]

If they stopped getting literal tax breaks for importing workers it'd be a start. But yes, basically if you improved the pay you wouldn't need to look abroad

 

[visage]

Its all interconnected though, isnt it?

Care hopes pay better wages, so the fees go up, so less people can afford it, so the burden on the NHS increases.

The answer, obviously, is to raise taxes. But thats become political suicide by generations of cunts promising that we can have better public services while cutting taxes.

At some point we'll need a politician with the willingness and credibility to make that argument.

 

[Wellen Wolf]

Its all interconnected though, isnt it?

Care hopes pay better wages, so the fees go up, so less people can afford it, so the burden on the NHS increases.

The answer, obviously, is to raise taxes. But thats become political suicide by generations of cunts promising that we can have better public services while cutting taxes.

At some point we'll need a politician with the willingness and credibility to make that argument.

Fair point.
We also need to recognise that many of these 'care' homes just like school academies and nurseries exist to make ridiculous profits ie salaries for the owners, trust and board members.

 

[visage]

So nationalise them and run them at arms length on a not-for-profit basis.

 

[Sniffer]

Having carers visit a relative 4 times a day for the last 12 months or so I’ve barely seen one who isn’t a recent immigrant. There’s a reason why people don’t want to do it and it’s thoroughly understandable why.

 

[Walshes Wolves]

Its all interconnected though, isnt it?

Care hopes pay better wages, so the fees go up, so less people can afford it, so the burden on the NHS increases.

The answer, obviously, is to raise taxes. But thats become political suicide by generations of cunts promising that we can have better public services while cutting taxes.

At some point we'll need a politician with the willingness and credibility to make that argument.

This in particular is correct, but often because there are not enough council run care homes, people end up spending their life savings on receiving residential care in the private sector.

 

[leedswolf]

Having carers visit a relative 4 times a day for the last 12 months or so I’ve barely seen one who isn’t a recent immigrant. There’s a reason why people don’t want to do it and it’s thoroughly understandable why.

My mother has 3 home visits a day and I have witnessed the same.

 

[Walshes Wolves]

Having carers visit a relative 4 times a day for the last 12 months or so I’ve barely seen one who isn’t a recent immigrant. There’s a reason why people don’t want to do it and it’s thoroughly understandable why.

Yes there is a reason. The person who already lives here gets paid more working in a supermarket and often the people who come here, do it because they see it as an avenue to getting permanent residency in the UK and bettering their living standards.
They often work for agencies who exploit them. They have to stay at the place that sponsors them. They often get all the shit jobs in the care homes and get treated appallingly, but they are trapped, as they suck it up until they receive permanent residency. This to me is akin to modern slavery.
The care homes no squealing on the BBC, saying that they won't get enough local workers, are the same ones that are benefitting from cheap immigrant labour, who keel stum about the exploration of immigrants working in their care homes.

 

[Walshes Wolves]

Having carers visit a relative 4 times a day for the last 12 months or so I’ve barely seen one who isn’t a recent immigrant. There’s a reason why people don’t want to do it and it’s thoroughly understandable why.

Yes there is a reason. The person who already lives here gets paid more working in a supermarket and often the people who come here, do it because they see it as an avenue to getting permanent residency in the UK and bettering their living standards.
They often work for agencies who exploit them. They have to stay at the place that sponsors them. They often get all the shit jobs in the care homes and get treated appallingly, but they are trapped, as they suck it up until they receive permanent residency. This to me is akin to modern slavery.
The care homes now squealing on the BBC, saying that they won't get enough local workers, are the same ones that are benefitting from cheap immigrant labour, who keep stum about the exploration of immigrants working in their care homes.

 

[leedswolf]

Fair point.
We also need to recognise that many of these 'care' homes just like school academies and nurseries exist to make ridiculous profits ie salaries for the owners, trust and board members.

Indeed, and depending on the individual's financial circumstances, the costs may have to be met by the relevant local authority.

 

[Sniffer]

Offering a £1 an hour extra than a supermarket won’t change local people’s willingness to enter the care sector.
I’m grateful of the service provided by those coming here and fear for what will happen when they don’t.
How many on here will be pushing their kids into the care sector as a career path?