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Societal collapse?

Martin Lewis would fight you to the death for that
 
EpsomWolf said:
Pretty sure there are quite a few places now where it’s cheaper to get a parking ticket than actually pay for the parking itself in certain circumstances.

I recall about 10 years ago the furore when in the Grand Arcade in Cambridge if you paid the parking fine within a certain timeframe to qualify for the 50% discount it was cheaper going that route than paying for all day, which, I think now is up to almost £5 ph at weekends.

Just got leathered for £100 recently for parking in a pub car park and forgetting to enter the reg number on the touch screen thingy inside. Luckily I’d paid for drinks with the phone and was able to show proof of attendance and successfully appealed, but the whole parking thing has become an absolute racket.
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I got one recently for drop off at an airport. Drove through the pay station (no physical exit barriers to indicate them) without realising. I got a parking charge notice for £100. However, if paid within 28 days of the date the notice was issued the charge is discounted to £5.
 
leedswolf said:
I got one recently for drop off at an airport. Drove through the pay station (no physical exit barriers to indicate them) without realising. I got a parking charge notice for £100. However, if paid within 28 days of the date the notice was issued the charge is discounted to £5.
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That’s a hell of a discount, surprised they were as reasonable as that. I got done at Heathrow last year, £80, reduced to £40 when paid within 14 days. That was sore.

Funnily enough the appeal on the pub one was initially rejected because there are very clear signs in the carpark and in the bar area too, BUT, it was a warm Sunday and they’d opened up the outside garden bar where I’d got served and paid, so hadn’t actually been in the pub itself to see the screen or signs in there to register. The company still weren’t having it on the basis there were signs in the car park and in the end it was appeals to the landlady herself who then got the company to call the dogs off.

I know there are question marks around the legality of some of these practices but these people aren’t stupid and it takes a brave person to take it all the way and I’m not sure I would’ve done had the landlady not stepped in.
 
Councils are raising parking costs down here in London too. They've all seen huge cuts to their income from central government, while the obligations placed on them continue to rise. So they're trying to get funds from wherever they can.
 
leedswolf said:
I got one recently for drop off at an airport. Drove through the pay station (no physical exit barriers to indicate them) without realising. I got a parking charge notice for £100. However, if paid within 28 days of the date the notice was issued the charge is discounted to £5.
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Gill got a fine for going into a bus lane in Newcastle. £70 fine, reduced to £35 if paid within 28 days. The bus lanes have caught loads of people in the last 12 months. Another easy way for councils to generate money and make driving in the city a PITA.
 
Dire Wolf said:
Gill got a fine for going into a bus lane in Newcastle. £70 fine, reduced to £35 if paid within 28 days. The bus lanes have caught loads of people in the last 12 months. Another easy way for councils to generate money and make driving in the city a PITA.
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I got fined quite a few years ago in greater london for entering a bus lane tbf.
 
PuntsWolf said:
I've been told parking tickets from private companies can be ignored and they won't actually ever do any thing. They keep doubling the fine when you don't pay but eventually just give up if you keep ignoring them
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Difference between penalty charges and parking fine notices explained

How you approach paying or disputing a parking tickets depends on whether it's a penalty charge notice or parking charge notice. Here's our guide to parking fines.
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Seems like it's complex and you could end up with a CCJ against your name.

I think i'd take the lesser of two evils and just pay the fine
 
India and Pakistan going back at it, shelling, planes shot down, at least 26 civilians dead
 
leedswolf said:
yorkshirebylines.co.uk

‘Resolute 1850’: Reform UK Ltd’s MAGA plan to turn Britain into Little America

Right-wing US interests are pushing a plan to bend the UK to their will, ‘DOGE’-style – in Farage’s Reform UK they have an eager little helper
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I don't like Reform, but it is not them that has caused societal collapse. It is the people we have had in power and have run the country in to the ground. Reform are not the answer to that, but also they are not responsible for it.
 
Walshes Wolves said:
I don't like Reform, but it is not them that has caused societal collapse. It is the people we have had in power and have run the country in to the ground. Reform are not the answer to that, but also they are not responsible for it.
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Agreed. They are 'tools'.
As I have written elsewhere, ours is a decaying country and the responsibility lies mainly with the establishment and capitalist exploiters. IMHO there is a lesser contributing factor which is the people who are ignorant to this and those who passively accept it.
 
This was interesting to me as it was the year my dad was born v now.

Completely US centric, but Thatcher followed Reagan into creating this inequal income gap so it is pertinent for the UK too.

Worryingly it seems a huge conflict seems to reset things (as in WW2)

 
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