Societal collapse?

[jlo]

Prove your age before watching age rated content. I certainly agree with the principle but no way on god's green earth should anyone trust them with their personal details.

You don't, you use a third party verification tool - the website only gets a tick not your data (yes the third party has access to your data, but you probably give them it already)

 

[Dire Wolf]

‘Self-termination is most likely’: the history and future of societal collapse

An epic analysis of 5,000 years of civilisation argues that a global collapse is coming unless inequality is vanquished

www.theguardian.com

 

[Tredman]

Interesting, if depressing read:

The Job Market is Rolling Over

Friday brought with it a staggeringly negative jobs report... This means that the last 3 months have been the weakest job creation period since COVID. Markets suffered.

open.substack.com

 

[Del Woppio]

Ricky Jones: Suspended Labour councillor who called for protesters' throats to be cut at rally not guilty of encouraging violent disorder

Ricky Jones, 58, drew his finger across his throat and called demonstrators "disgusting Nazi fascists" at an anti-racism protest in east London last August following the Southport murders.

news.sky.com

I mean that's just bonkers tbh. How on earth have a jury come to that conclusion when there's a literal video of it. Fuel to the fire.

 

[EpsomWolf]

Any attempts to soothe tensions or discredit suggestions of two-tier justice have just been given an almighty kicking. Starmer, the police and the justice system have tied themselves up in knots and the manifestation of this is unlikely to be good.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

I don't see how this is on Starmer or the police or the justice system. The police arrested and charged him, I assume the CPS decided there was sufficient evidence to prosecute and Starmer wasn't involved at any point. Comparisons have been made with Lucy Connelly who pleaded guilty so there was no option to find her not guilty by way of a jury.

The jury didn't deliberate for long so they were biased, incompetent...or right.

 

[AndyWolves]

It's missing the point though, the optics, and what people will take away from this are exactly as @EpsomWolf says.

 

[YoungWolf]

Be a dangerous path to go down if they decided everything by optics wouldn’t it though

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Jury trials have been enshrined since the Magna Carta.

And funnily enough, the same smooth brained morons who will be bellowing about "two tier justice" (hi Nigel) are the same planks who often cited the Magna Carta when they wanted to do whatever the fuck they wanted during Covid. Make your mind up.

 

[Wolftone]

 

[Kenny]

FFS..can't be doing with this shit....sharing the same view as this twat

 

[The Saturday Boy]

It's missing the point though, the optics, and what people will take away from this are exactly as @EpsomWolf says.

Such a strange take on what I posted. Are you saying a jury should have found him guilty not on the evidence but on how it looks? That would deal with the perception of two tier justice…but wouldn’t be justice.

 

[AndyWolves]

Such a strange take on what I posted. Are you saying a jury should have found him guilty not on the evidence but on how it looks? That would deal with the perception of two tier justice…but wouldn’t be justice.

No, I'm saying that this will be twisted into the "two-tier" justice perception. The actual facts and finding of the case are irrelevant to that view

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

No, I'm saying that this will be twisted into the "two-tier" justice perception. The actual facts and finding of the case are irrelevant to that view

That's like saying we shouldn't have sold Guedes because it'll only egg on the idiots who are convinced we're selling everyone.

 

[AndyWolves]

That's like saying we shouldn't have sold Guedes because it'll only egg on the idiots who are convinced we're selling everyone.

I haven't said the guy shouldn't have been found not guilty. Merely that the reality of the situation is that people will see it as confirming their views.

In the same way that guedes being shit is irrelevant to the people who think we're selling everyone.

 

[Del Woppio]

I just don't get it. He was standing with a crowd in the street, saying you should slit the throats of people.

Is that legal now?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I just don't get it. He was standing with a crowd in the street, saying you should slit the throats of people.

Is that legal now?

It's a jury trial.

Do you think Harry Redknapp did or didn't evade tax when he was Portsmouth manager and had bank accounts in his fucking dog's name and how many days in prison did he serve?

And if you've watched The Gold, Kenneth Noye (the massive psycho) literally got away with murder in the 80s.

 

[AndyWolves]

Make your own minds up

https://twitter.com/x/status/1956315201193828401

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

That's bone headed stupidity though, writ large.

What system are they saying is broken? The jury system?

What bearing does it have on a criminal case whether you do or don't have children and/or grandchildren FFS? And that horrible cunt Connolly pleaded guilty, what are the courts supposed to do there?

 

[AndyWolves]

Forget the nonsense thats written, it's the video of what the dude is saying that's interesting and what people need to decide upon.

Is that worse or not worse or as bad as was tweeted by Lucy Connelly - that's what I think people are weighing up