Trump

[The Bear]

I generally don't like his stuff as it's mostly generic and boring.

The one song I do really like is "Ain't Good Enough For You" which is an old song from his vaults which he didn't release until 2010.

 

[Tony Towner]

As someone born in the USA, fuck that song and fuck Bruce Springsteen.

It's an anti Vietnam and the way vets were treated protest song

 

[Loki]

From my era, I think he`s great. Each to their own.

Er, I don`t mean Trump.

 

[sycophantia]

You ever start to hate song because it’s overplayed on the radio? Imagine that, just also you didn’t like the song to begin with (I find his voice very unpleasant to listen to tbh), and then tie it to a few holidays where it is essentially played nonstop for the preceding and following weeks.

That might be hyperbolic but fuck me does it feel that way.

That era isn’t really mine, tbf. Which is odd as I grew up with it via my dad.

That's fair enough (if wrong) I thought you moaning about the content.
Yeah I get bored with songs that are over played, even ones I like sometimes. Tbf I rarely listin to music radio any more.

 

[leedswolf]

You ever start to hate song because it’s overplayed on the radio?

That's the problem with power ballads and anthems and the seemingly compulsory commercial obsession to produce them, even though a lot of bands (I'm looking at you, Van Halen) just didn't need to do them.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

On the perennial Springsteen/Joel debate (didn’t know it was a thing)…as an 80s teenager I liked Springsteen but didn’t know he had earlier stuff until I heard FGTH Born to Run so listened to some of the earlier stuff and wasn’t really taken. Billy Joel’s 80s stuff I detested but when I found out he also existed before the 1980s I discovered I quite liked his earlier stuff.

I rarely listen to either…except Piano Man which is easily one of my favourite songs ever.

 

[Tony Towner]

On the perennial Springsteen/Joel debate (didn’t know it was a thing)…as an 80s teenager I liked Springsteen but didn’t know he had earlier stuff until I heard FGTH Born to Run so listened to some of the earlier stuff and wasn’t really taken. Billy Joel’s 80s stuff I detested but when I found out he also existed before the 1980s I discovered I quite liked his earlier stuff.

I rarely listen to either…except Piano Man which is easily one of my favourite songs ever.

I'm a massive Billy Joel fan, been to see him a few times and would have been again next month if he hadn't postponed because he is ill. We Didn't Start the Fire and Uptown Girl did wonders for his bank balance, but don't represent him as an artist and to a degree it's a shame that's what the casual listener will think of at least over here - he doesn't even play the piano on either of them.

The Stranger album from 1977 is wonderful, Scenes from an Italian Restaurant on it is a masterpiece

 

[sycophantia]

Interesting stuff, Born to Run and Piano man are 2 of my favourite all time songs. Joel's stuff after that not so keen although I can still see the quality. I struggled with Springsteens stuff after BTR but as time has past I've started liking his catalogue. That's not to say I like all of his stuff in fact I prefer the Patty Smith version of 'Because the night' and the original version of 'Blinded by the Light' is quite dreary for me, Manfred Manns Earth Bands version is much superior..
Anyway we probably aught to get back to slagging off Trump before we get a Mod bollocking.

 

[Alan]

It's an anti Vietnam and the way vets were treated protest song

Hah, I know, I’m being OTT because it’s nails on a chalkboard for me.

 

[Tony Towner]

Hah, I know, I’m being OTT because it’s nails on a chalkboard for me.

Yeah politicians have never understood what it's about going back to Reagan hence it always being used in rallies

 

[Mel Evo]

Only really started listening to Springsteen after we watched the Blinded by the Light film as a family. Watched that on the train to Valencia after the Wolves match at Espanyol actually, so the Boss gets a positive review from my family for all sorts of weird associations.

When I think of Billy Joel now I think of undercover Terry from Brooklyn 99. Another thing I have to blame my kids for.

 

[Alan]

Yeah politicians have never understood what it's about going back to Reagan hence it always being used in rallies

Nail on head. It’s why I recoil at even just an American flag on a private space; the most basic patriotic symbols here have been co-opted by the bigots and fools.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Nail on head. It’s why I recoil at even just an American flag on a private space; the most basic patriotic symbols here have been co-opted by the bigots and fools.

I feel like that about the St. George's flag.

 

[prawnking]

Most flag-shaggers rarely do it for positive reasons, in my experience

 

[leedswolf]

Weird got weirder...

TV show where immigrants compete for US citizenship considered by Trump administration

The proposed TV show would see immigrants compete in tasks across different states and include trivia and "civic" challenges, according to the producer who pitched it.

news.sky.com

 

[Alan]

I feel like that about the St. George's flag.

Shit place to be, ay? You want to be proud of your heritage but it’s inextricably tied to truly heinous history.

I want to be proud of being an intelligent Southerner, a North Carolinian, a Charlottean. But being loudly so opens me up to a lot of presumptions, unkind and inaccurate for me personally, but no less valid given the history of this country and the crimes that were so maliciously perpetrated and defended by the Southerners who came before me.

Cultural scars are inherited by future generations. And we’re still not a full lifetime away from the likes of Malcolm, Martin, and Rosa.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I'm a massive Billy Joel fan, been to see him a few times and would have been again next month if he hadn't postponed because he is ill. We Didn't Start the Fire and Uptown Girl did wonders for his bank balance, but don't represent him as an artist and to a degree it's a shame that's what the casual listener will think of at least over here - he doesn't even play the piano on either of them.

The Stranger album from 1977 is wonderful, Scenes from an Italian Restaurant on it is a masterpiece

I'd say he's pretty unique in that he's been touring all along, but hasn't actually made a proper album since 1993. Just stopped.

 

[Alan]

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I need to watch the Wire again (for the 4th time)

 

[Tony Towner]

Nobody needs Frank Sobotka for a 2nd, let alone 4th time