Trump

[Alan]

I do still hold to the idea that the world is a better, safer place than ever, but given the course of human history, the bar isn't terribly high.

 

[Carsy]

I do still hold to the idea that the world is a better, safer place than ever, but given the course of human history, the bar isn't terribly high.

Yeah, if you sit back and take stock of everything, things are undeniably better. Still along way to go though.

Maybe it’s just people have for outreach as mentioned, but feel there’s more ‘radicals’ on the different political/religious spectrums. But maybe it’s just easier to spread your message as mentioned

 

[AndyWolves]

Messages and opinions are more easily spreadable far and wide. 20 years ago for example he would never of had the scope he did. That is the same more for many things, with the internet etc. it’s far more easy to influence people and bombard them with different algorithms and such.

Tech/phone culture

Good point, and it's also very profitable to spread divisive messages (or any messages) if people interact with your content.

 

[Templeton Peck]

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Yup. For example:

Black people​

• “Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.” (source)

Black pilots​

• “If I see a Black pilot, I’m gonna be like, ’Boy, I hope he’s qualified.’” (source)

Black women​

• “They're coming out, and they're saying, 'I'm only here because of affirmative action.' Yeah, we know. You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously." (source)

Civil rights​

• “We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the mid-1960s.” (source)

Death penalty​

• "[Death penalties] should be public, should be quick, should be televised… I think at a certain age, it’s an initiation… At what age should you start to see public executions?" (source)

Democrats​

• “The Democrat Party supports everything that God hates.” (source)

Empathy​

• "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage." (source)

Feminism​

• “Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge." (source)

Gay people​

• “You might want to crack open that Bible of yours. In a lesser referenced part of the same part of scripture, is in Leviticus 18 is that, ‘thou shalt lay with another man shall be stoned to death.’ Just sayin’! So Miss Rachel, you quote Leviticus 19… the chapter before affirms God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” (source)

George Floyd​

• “This guy was a scumbag.” (source)

Great Replacement Theory​

• “It's not a Great Replacement Theory, it's a Great Replacement Reality. Just this year, 3.6 million foreigners will invade America. 10-15 million will enter by the end of Joe Biden's term. Each will probably have 3-5 kids on average while native born Americans have 1.5 per couple. You are being replaced, by design.” (source)

Guns​

• “It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment.” (source)

Jews​

• “Jewish donors have been the number one funding mechanism of radical open-border, neoliberal, quasi-Marxist policies, cultural institutions and nonprofits. This is a beast created by secular Jews and now it’s coming for Jews, and they're like, ‘What on Earth happened?’ And it's not just the colleges. It's the nonprofits, it's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all of it.” (source)

Martin Luther King Jr.​

• “MLK was awful. He's not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn't believe.” (source)

Muslims​

• “They aren’t even hiding their intentions. Muslims plan to conquer Europe by demographic replacement. Will Europe wake up in time?” (source)

Palestine​

• “I don’t think the place exists.” (source)

Transgender people​

• “You’re an abomination to God.” (source)

We live in a world now where people will look you in the eye and tell you with a straight face that his views weren't extreme. Starmer mentioned him ffs. Years ago a PM would have been embarrassed at even being vaguely aware of the cunt.

 

[Alan]

Yeah, if you sit back and take stock of everything, things are undeniably better. Still along way to go though.

Maybe it’s just people have for outreach as mentioned, but feel there’s more ‘radicals’ on the different political/religious spectrums. But maybe it’s just easier to spread your message as mentioned

Easier to spread and the algorithms underpinning that spread create "echo chambers" that push people toward extremes (that's not a conspiracy theory btw, it's a very real strategy the tech oligarchs use to drive "engagement"). Those same mechanisms also spread coverage of incidents and tragedies farther, wider, and faster than ever by orders of magnitude.

Huge strides remain, of course, but at least our cities don't need stone walls and watchtowers anymore.

There's a great Donald Glover bit about this where he points out that it wasn't that long ago that your family could be murdered in the night and the general response would be *shrug* "I mean the sun went down, what did you expect would happen?"

 

[Law's Bus]

Lad at work in his 20s asked me if this is the "scariest" time I've lived through (made me feel old) and I guess as I was a young child during the 80s, it probably is!

Would expect those who were more conscious of the Cold War in the 80s would consider that period more frightning though?

Was there a kind of freedom to that though? That it could all end in an instant? Where as now feels like a constant build of tension and depression with no real sign of hope?

No, even through the Cold War and the public information films about how to hide in the cupboard under the stairs - this is the scariest time.

Things we accept as common today were real "did you know that they do this behind the Iron Curtain" shocks, like monitoring your communications and putting people in prison for taking photos. We've made so much progress since the 1970s - women are no longer subject to sexual assault in every workplace, LBGT+ people could live openly, people of colour no longer get spat at in the street and shunned; and these idiots come along and spout NSDAP propaganda from the mid-1930s and genuinely think that concentration camps etc are a good thing.

Wake up and smell the coffee, flag shaggers. These are the people you are supporting - the people who bang on about "two world wars and one world cup" but who have exactly the same ideals as the NSDAP. Fascists are here amongst us all.

 

[Wellen Wolf]

We live in a world now where people will look you in the eye and tell you with a straight face that his views weren't extreme. Starmer mentioned him ffs. Years ago a PM would have been embarrassed at even being vaguely aware of the cunt.

You've gotta be kidding about Starmer and Kirk, :-( , but to be honest he comes across so often as being scared of his own shadow.
Most people though haven't got a clue about the truth or reality of uncivilised extremist political leaders like Trump, Netanyahu, Johnson, Bannon, Farage, Putin, Milei, Bolsonaro, Xi Jinping, Modi, Meloni, Orban, Erdogan, Le Pen to name just a few well known ones in the West. And, they are just the front men and women to those who manipulate and play them like Thiel and Musk and Murdoch.
Don't start me though on the gullible and indoctrinated masses who haven't got a clue about think tanks and mass surveillance organisations like the Five Eyes which of course is Six.

 

[EdgeOfTheAlps]

He said that if someone raped his daughter he'd make her carry the child to term. He might've breathed through his nose but he was definitely a moron.

His hypothetical 10 year old daughter to boot