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The Jack the Ripper Case - SOLVED (apparently)

Mr Edwards from Barnet says "Only non-believers that want to perpetuate the myth will doubt"

You non-believer.
 
I am a Ripper heathen. :(

Kosminski was a seriously disturbed man, undeniably, but he would never have been capable of the Mary Kelly murder.
 
Just read an article re this.

Indications of DNA for Kominski & Catherine Eddowes (the victim) on a shawl, but only circumstantial proof that this was as a result of the attack that killed her.

Interestingly the writer of the article has a book being released on the 9th Sept about this - go figure.
 
I have always thought that Tumblety was the ripper, though Mr Jelly will disagree with that.
 
I have read many books about JTR, each one offering plausible suspects though the Diaries of Jack The Ripper are pretty convincing with the author of the diaries (though doubts remain about the authenticity of the diaries), James Maybrick making a very convincing case. One theory surrounds a man originally from Stourbridge who worked in Wolverhampton and went on to murder his wife in Dundee, being the Ripper. The Black Country Bugle has covered this in the past
 
The shawl has little/no provenance for actually belonging to Eddowes (who was born in wolverhampton - graisley in fact).

It came to light in the early 20th century, the family of a man named Amos Smith saying he obtained it from the eddowes crime scene.

Sadly, no records exist of a pc amos smith. Even more complicated for this theory, his family put this forward arguing he was a met officer, yet the eddowes crime occurred within the jurisdiction of the city police in mitre square.

All of that said, Kosminski is a viable candidate, though there is no evidence linking him to the crimes other than him being named in a memorandum in 1894 as being more likely than a Thomas Cutbush, in response to some articles in The Sun.

Bury, as a suspect interests me greatly.
 
As a PS, anyone suggesting the royal conspiracy/Sir William Gull deserves kennys ban hammer!

On the "medical man" theory, that has grown with the myth of the toff in the top hat & gladstone bag. Such a description was never given by anyone who witnessed any of the victims shortly before a murder was committed. & only 1 examining doctor/coroner suspected the perpetrator had medical knowledge. All others pretty much disagreed.
 
The Michael Caine/Lewis Collins dramatisation on the 100th anniversary in 1988 pinned the blame on Sir William Gull. The theory is that the real JTR was far removed from the popular image of a refined gentleman in top hat and tails as this character would have stood out like a saw thumb in the poverty stricken east end and that the real culprit would have been a down-at-heel lowly man (or woman) who would blend into the crowd
 
The Michael Caine/Lewis Collins dramatisation on the 100th anniversary in 1988 pinned the blame on Sir William Gull. The theory is that the real JTR was far removed from the popular image of a refined gentleman in top hat and tails as this character would have stood out like a saw thumb in the poverty stricken east end and that the real culprit would have been a down-at-heel lowly man (or woman) who would blend into the crowd
The Caine programme was based loosely around the Stephen Knight Final Solution book, which was based on the attention seeking ramblings of someone (joseph gorman sickert) claiming to be the offspring of walter sickert who said he'd been told all about it, the story being passed down the family line. The fact that Josepg gorman sickert has recanted his statements & changed his story numerous times hasn't diminished the publics desire for a ridiculous tale.

Similar could be said for the "diary" of James Maybrick. Almost certainly a hoax, the guy who "found" it issued & retracted at least 4 different statements & affadivits, including one where he claimed to have written it himself!

He seems a bit manic, which might fit most of the victims, but not Kelly, whose killing was very organised and almost ritualistic.
Kellys murder is quite unique, in that it was the only murder committed indoors.
I'd disagree that her murder was ritualistic though. Indeed, quite likely that it was the most frenzied killing of them all. The killer had a lockable environment in which to really let go. Apparently the fire was hot enough to melt the spout off the kettle in the fireplace. A fair amount of clothes were burnt.
Kelly was last seen/heard just after 1 o'clock. She wasn't found til late next morning, so the killer had literally hours to go to town. Some of the things he did were barbaric - he stripped the skin from her face, took great chunks from various other parts of her body & laid them around the body & on side tables with no apparent fashion. Indeed the Kelly killing is the most brutal & least "medical man" style killing of the lot.
 
The Michael Caine/Lewis Collins dramatisation on the 100th anniversary in 1988 pinned the blame on Sir William Gull. The theory is that the real JTR was far removed from the popular image of a refined gentleman in top hat and tails as this character would have stood out like a saw thumb in the poverty stricken east end and that the real culprit would have been a down-at-heel lowly man (or woman) who would blend into the crowd
The Caine programme was based loosely around the Stephen Knight Final Solution book, which was based on the attention seeking ramblings of someone (joseph gorman sickert) claiming to be the offspring of walter sickert who said he'd been told all about it, the story being passed down the family line. The fact that Josepg gorman sickert has recanted his statements & changed his story numerous times hasn't diminished the publics desire for a ridiculous tale.

Similar could be said for the "diary" of James Maybrick. Almost certainly a hoax, the guy who "found" it issued & retracted at least 4 different statements & affadivits, including one where he claimed to have written it himself!

He seems a bit manic, which might fit most of the victims, but not Kelly, whose killing was very organised and almost ritualistic.
Kellys murder is quite unique, in that it was the only murder committed indoors.
I'd disagree that her murder was ritualistic though. Indeed, quite likely that it was the most frenzied killing of them all. The killer had a lockable environment in which to really let go. Apparently the fire was hot enough to melt the spout off the kettle in the fireplace. A fair amount of clothes were burnt.
Kelly was last seen/heard just after 1 o'clock. She wasn't found til late next morning, so the killer had literally hours to go to town. Some of the things he did were barbaric - he stripped the skin from her face, took great chunks from various other parts of her body & laid them around the body & on side tables with no apparent fashion. Indeed the Kelly killing is the most brutal & least "medical man" style killing of the lot.
 
Interesting that this subject pops up for debate now, with today (8/9/2014) being the 126 anniversary of the annie chapman killing.
 
Kellys murder is quite unique, in that it was the only murder committed indoors.
I'd disagree that her murder was ritualistic though. Indeed, quite likely that it was the most frenzied killing of them all. The killer had a lockable environment in which to really let go. Apparently the fire was hot enough to melt the spout off the kettle in the fireplace. A fair amount of clothes were burnt.
Kelly was last seen/heard just after 1 o'clock. She wasn't found til late next morning, so the killer had literally hours to go to town. Some of the things he did were barbaric - he stripped the skin from her face, took great chunks from various other parts of her body & laid them around the body & on side tables with no apparent fashion. Indeed the Kelly killing is the most brutal & least "medical man" style killing of the lot.

I'm sticking with 'ritualistic' for Kelly's murder. The placings of the entrails and organs might appear haphazard, but there are plenty of theories — mainly masonic — to explain why they might also have been deliberate. There was no semen at the scene and nothing to suggest the killer was in a rage; all the (admittedly scant) evidence points towards a man who went about his work methodically, carefully and quietly, making good use of the many hours he spent with the victim.

As you probably know, FBI studies suggest that if the Ripper were a modern-day serial killer, he would have reached what they call the ‘ritual phase’ of his career by that time. Taking the skin from the face is standard procedure for serial killers, and they usually do it first in order to rob the the victim of their identity and make it psychologically easier to carry out more mutilation. Not a frenzied act, in other words.
 
That's possible. But rituals had already begun - body parts & trophies were taken from earlier victims (chapmans womb was taken). Placing of items had already started too (again, with chapman the entrails were placed "apparently by design" over her left shoulder.
Trophies/parts were also taken from the eddowes crime scene, including a section of her shawl (found in goulston street, near the so-called graffito).
Chapman, Eddowes & Kelly are part of the "canonical" group of victims, of whom 5 are usually argued to be the work of the ripper. But these form part of 11 total murders spanning 1887-1891 called the whitechapel murders.

It is quite likely that the ripper started earlier and polly nicholls wasn't his first murder.
 
I will briefly explain why I believe that Tumblety could have been the Ripper.

Firstly he disliked women generally, and had a hatred for prostitues, hardly proof of him being a serial killer I know, but he found out his wife had been a prostitute at one time. Tumblety was also in London on the dates the women were murdered, and is believed to be the Batty Street lodger who was staying in very close proximity to the murder locations. He also had medical knowledge, and apart from the butchering of Mary Kelly, it is clear whoever did it had some medical knowledge. The murders also ceased after he fled London, going via France and using a number of aliases. Why would he have done that unless he had great need to avoid being caught by the Police. Scotland Yard contacted New York police for a sample of Tumblety's handwriting, this would have been after the fake ripper letter.

So to my mind there are several things that point to Tumblety being the ripper, but the two main reasons are:

The Littlechild Letter and after his death, the authorities found in Tumblety's possession two cheap, imitation rings. All his other jewellery was expensive, so why have two cheap rings which were identical to ones owned by Annie Chapman.

I rest my case your honour, and eagerly await Mr Jelly's response.
 
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