Keir Starmer at it again..

[Del Woppio]

George Osborne, 2014: "We inherited a welfare system that didn't work. There was not enough help for those looking for a job – people were just parked on benefits. Frankly, there was not enough pressure to get a job – some people could just sign on and get almost as much money staying at home as going out to work."

Kier Starmer, today: "
“We were elected to change what is broken in our country. The welfare system is broken and that’s why we will press ahead with our reforms. It’s very important that we do so, because the current system is not working for anybody.
People are trapped in it and I’m not prepared to allow that to happen. So, we will press forward with our reforms.”

 

[Tredman]

Ignoring Gideon but helping people find an appropriate job, where possible, is surely a good thing?

 

[Del Woppio]

Ignoring Gideon but helping people find an appropriate job, where possible, is surely a good thing?

Absolutely, but you've got to put those systems and incentives (employer and employee) in place first, and see that the systems are working, before you start pulling benefits from people

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Pretty sure they've said they're doing away with the Cameron-era stance of the DWP whereby it's "take this job, any job, no matter how suitable it is or we'll stop your meagre allowance of money, and also make sure you apply for 300+ positions a week"..

 

[Del Woppio]

Knocking 150 Labour MPs signed the amendment now. How's fucked if caves and fucked if he doesn't. I think he might just try and ride it out and pray for abstentions

 

[leedswolf]

Knocking 150 Labour MPs signed the amendment now. How's fucked if caves and fucked if he doesn't. I think he might just try and ride it out and pray for abstentions

?

 

[Del Woppio]

?

Keir Starmer says government will stand firm on disability welfare overhaul

Tally of rebels stands at 108, as Labour heavy-hitters including Sadiq Khan urge PM to pause legislation

www.theguardian.com

 

[Jack Regan]

Just "noises off" apparently whatever the fuck that even means.

Starmer suggests welfare bill revolt just ‘noises off’ as he denies being bad at politics – UK politics live

PM ‘committed to reforming system’ as more Labour MPs join opposition to plan to cut universal credit and Pip

www.theguardian.com

 

[Templeton Peck]

Every cunt that gets elected says exactly the same thing. It's why we need real change, not the same tired Thatcherite shite.

 

[Dire Wolf]

Keir Starmer says government will stand firm on disability welfare overhaul

Tally of rebels stands at 108, as Labour heavy-hitters including Sadiq Khan urge PM to pause legislation

www.theguardian.com

Read something that suggested that after Labour MPs were told by the chief whip saying that it was seen as a "back Starmer to show confidence in him" vote, the number planning to vote against it went from 108 to 127. Could be bollocks of course.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Loads of Labour MPs just need to defect to the Greens. Dunno why they fucking bother.

 

[ROVERT47]

Just watch Adam Curtis’s latest documentary series ‘Shifty’ from the 70s and 80s to put a bit of perspective on how bad things are perceived to be currently.

 

[Kenny]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1938326326504472692

 

[Hereford Wolf]

Starmers first year has been a car crash. So many things could have been avoided with good advisors. Anybody who follows politics understands he has failed the core Labour vote very badly. I will never trust them again. 14 years of Tory shit and they come into power and just do the most inexplicable things. I just can’t get my head around it. I’m reading Truss at 10 by Anthony Sheldon which is a great in depth analysis of that particular car crash. He may need to sharpen his pen to write a book on Starmer quite soon.

 

[PuntsWolf]

And the door for reform to win by default gets wider…

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

to a tiny crack.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Voting for a party you have no faith in, to stop another party winning who you find abhorrent is fucking dismal though isnt it?

Where is the hope?

 

[Templeton Peck]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1938615522301546882

Lies as comfortably as Johnson.

 

[AndyWolves]

Greens it is then

 

[prawnking]

Voting for a party you have no faith in, to stop another party winning who you find abhorrent is fucking dismal though isnt it?

Where is the hope?

A very simplistic view of party politics. There's more than just your or my definition of hope.

Also, a political party isn't a religion, or your favourite band when you were 16