Keir Starmer at it again..

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Promises made, promises kept.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

This superb, the rules previously were explicitly made to prevent young people being able to prove ID

Definitely a good thing, if you're old enough to pay tax and go to war, you're old enough to decide on the government.

 

[Sniffer]

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The Mail has it being due to a woke rebrand, the Telegraph as a personal embarrassment to the PM. I guess if you want to consume headlines from those 2 places you aren’t going to get any balance to the issue.
The whole place could have closed if the tariffs were not renegotiated.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

The Mail has it being due to a woke rebrand, the Telegraph as a personal embarrassment to the PM. I guess if you want to consume headlines from those 2 places you aren’t going to get any balance to the issue.
The whole place could have closed if the tariffs were not renegotiated.

I've no dog in this fight, but just thought it was particularly funny given the words Vis used..

 

[Tredman]

Funny is an odd word to use about job losses.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Funny is an odd word to use about job losses.

It wasnt "about job losses" though was it.

It was about Vis seeminginly proudly stating that he'd kept a promise whilst this JLR news was circulating - a promise he'd made so firmly above.

That is what was "funny" but you know that.

 

[Hereford Wolf]

No doubt this is a good thing. But it has to be backed up by education in schools about politics and voting and educating young people about social media and how it influences voting intentions and pushes confusing and blatantly wrong messages.

The Brexit result proved that many adults haven’t got the intelligence to vote. Their naivety still winds me up many years later.

 

[YoungWolf]

Sixteen and 17-year-olds will be able to vote in next general election

Up to 9.5 million more people will be able to vote by lowering the age.

news.sky.com

Promises made, promises kept.

This is good. And I’ll be fascinated to see what impact it has, if any!

 

[lemonjelly]

Losses at JLR would have been worse had Starmer not negotiated a trade deal with Trump though?

 

[Templeton Peck]

Sixteen and 17-year-olds will be able to vote in next general election

Up to 9.5 million more people will be able to vote by lowering the age.

news.sky.com

Promises made, promises kept.

Heady days indeed.

 

[Templeton Peck]

If you can start a family with your MP you should be able to vote for them.

 

[EpsomWolf]

Mixed feelings tbh.

If it’s a road we’re going down then let’s do the same with the gambling age, age you can buy alcohol, driving age, age you can get married, age you get sent to an adult prison, buy tobacco, fireworks etc etc.

Seems a bit odd to allow someone to vote to affect the governance of the country but you don’t trust them enough to buy a firework.

 

[Mel Evo]

Mixed feelings tbh.

If it’s a road we’re going down then let’s do the same with the gambling age, age you can buy alcohol, driving age, age you can get married, age you get sent to an adult prison, buy tobacco, fireworks etc etc.

Seems a bit odd to allow someone to vote to affect the governance of the country but you don’t trust them enough to buy a firework.

I think the bigger issue is that you wouldn’t trust half the people on the ballot paper with a firework.

 

[Tredman]

Mixed feelings tbh.

If it’s a road we’re going down then let’s do the same with the gambling age, age you can buy alcohol, driving age, age you can get married, age you get sent to an adult prison, buy tobacco, fireworks etc etc.

Seems a bit odd to allow someone to vote to affect the governance of the country but you don’t trust them enough to buy a firework.

Equally we don't take away the right to vote from people with dementia etc.

 

[sycophantia]

Teenagers who don't think about politics won't be bothered to vote, any that do vote you'd expect to have some ethos they support and will put thought into their vote.
Chances are they'll have very different views to me but that's ok, it's the nature of democracy.

 

[prawnking]

You'd think it's better news for Labour than Tories and also would mean some votes heading the way of Greens and any splinter far left party.

There are plenty of rotten old people who vote in regressive and selfish ways so fuck it, let the young uns have their say

 

[Del Woppio]

Reform are surprisingly very popular amongst the young.

 

[Dire Wolf]

Reform are surprisingly very popular amongst the young.

It's not surprising. The right have been much quicker and better at using social media to push their messages than the left. And they use messages that trigger responses that require very little analysis, so they can get an instant reaction, regardless of whether what they say has any basis in truth. It's how Trump campaigned, and the people behind Reform are the very same people who ran the Trump campaigns.

 

[sycophantia]

Reform are surprisingly very popular amongst the young.

Well that's fucking depressing.

 

[lemonjelly]

it is true though, sadly. their social media influence (plus cunts like the tates) means that is where they get their messages out.