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The Definitive TWF UK & Ireland XI (1970 - present) - ST VOTING OPEN

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Following on from the successful World XI thread, this is your chance to follow it up with the best that the UK and Ireland have produced.

The voting system is as follows; when we're picking for a position that only has one candidate (you only ever have one keeper, one right back etc), you get three picks to put in order - first choice gets three points, second choice two, third choice one. Once the voting for each position is done, I'll tot up all the points and the winner comes out in our own form of democracy. For centre halves, you get six picks as there'll be two of them. Same system, six points for pick one down to one point for pick six. Any newcomers, just have a look at the other thread if you're not sure. It's pretty self-explanatory.

Three differences this time - I'm extending the timeframe back to 1970. This gives the oldies a chance to tell us how everything was much better in their day and also for those who are a bit younger to pick players that they quite obviously didn't see properly but want to look cool ;) Seriously, pick who you like, ideally off your own frame of reference but who am I to tell you what to do. And also - to fit with mainstream British tactics over the last 47 years, we will be playing 4-4-fucking-2. Finally, at the end I'll be asking you to pick three selections to manage this team - from the UK & Ireland - and we'll also flip back to the World thread and you'll pick three managers there as well (from outside UK/Ire).

Same rules apply, don't go picking players in positions that they scarcely or realistically never played. It's up to you to make the case that your man deserves to go in for their proper position! Discussion is, as ever, welcome as we go along.

Keeper voting is now open and will close at around 6pm tomorrow.

The team so far:

-----------------------David Seaman---------------------------------

Gary Neville-------Rio Ferdinand-----John Terry--------Ashley Cole

David Beckham-----Roy Keane-------Paul Scholes------Ryan Giggs

----------------Alan Shearer--------Wayne Rooney-----------------------

Manager: Alex Ferguson
 
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1 - David Seaman
2 - Peter Shilton
3 - Shay Given
 
Banks
Shilton
Matt Murray
 
Peter Shilton
Neville Southall
David Seaman
 
Neville Southall
Gordon Banks
Peter Shilton
 
David Seaman
Shay Given
Peter Shilton

I was never a particularly big fan of Southall. Used to get chipped all the time and just stand there, the binman bastard. I probably missed his best years though (mid 80s) whereas Shilton was still very good when I started watching England in 1988.

Easy to forget how good Given was for years, so consistent, he's tarnished his legacy a bit with going on far too long.

Safe Hands was the best keeper in the world around Euro 96, genuinely.
 
Pat Jennings best goalkeeper in the UK in the 70s as Banks was on the way out
Gordon Banks deserves second place
Ray Clemence , again as in the 70s Liverpool reigned supreme pretty much.

Shilton had his Poland moment 1973 and while England managers played them both Clemence was the number one
 
David Seaman
Shay Given
Peter Shilton

I was never a particularly big fan of Southall. Used to get chipped all the time and just stand there, the binman bastard. I probably missed his best years though (mid 80s) whereas Shilton was still very good when I started watching England in 1988.

Easy to forget how good Given was for years, so consistent, he's tarnished his legacy a bit with going on far too long.

Safe Hands was the best keeper in the world around Euro 96, genuinely.

This is why Seaman doesn't make the top three https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0oq974EmpBo
 
Seaman
Shilton (even if he did turn out for notlob, not forgiven him for that)
Banks

Almost put Tim flowers in there
 
I was never a particularly big fan of Southall. Used to get chipped all the time and just stand there, the binman bastard.
The absolute state of him now FFS:


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Yes but Seamans was at the world cup. Clem just let his soon to be best mate pop one in! That's why Clemence is third. Jennings and Banks were way ahead in that era. If you really wanted a keeper who could have gone further than he did Mervyn Day at west ham. Bloody brilliant at 18 19 20 then went downhill. Joe Corrigan and the other Phil Parke's were good too.

Moving forward Given is a fair shout. As is Seaman to be fair, but then Southall also gets a look in. I was a bit odd with keepers. I loved Paul Cooper at Ipswich. Only 5 ft 9 but a real shot stopper and penalty specialist. Never went higher though. Gary Bailey at Man UTC flattered to deceive after a promising start.
 
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