Boris at it again and the contest to replace the lying c***

[Walshes Wolves]

We voted for members of the European parliament.
We were a major player with the power of veto over decisions.
We had a trade deal through block trading and we are now on the outside with reams of red tape to plow through to export.
We created our own Laws (and still do), there was no issue with "sovereignty"
We had, and still have our own border force

From Wikipedia

Currently, there is one member per member state, but members are bound by their oath of office to represent the general interest of the EU as a whole rather than their home state.

European Commission - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Walshes Wolves]

https://www.transparency.org/en/news/political-corruption-in-europe-threat-to-public-funds-integrity-watch

 

[Tony Towner]

Taking back control

Corruption review finds 'red flags' in more than 130 Covid contracts

An anti-corruption charity finds significant concerns in £15.3bn worth of contracts awarded during the pandemic.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Walshes Wolves]

https://www.transparency.org/en/news/political-corruption-in-europe-threat-to-public-funds-integrity-watch

 

[Walshes Wolves]

Taking back control

Corruption review finds 'red flags' in more than 130 Covid contracts

An anti-corruption charity finds significant concerns in £15.3bn worth of contracts awarded during the pandemic.

www.bbc.co.uk

Taking the piss.

Mask scandal: 'Unforgivable violations of ethical standards' – DW – 03/11/2021

Andreas Nick, a prominent member of Germany's ruling CDU party, has strongly criticized the two conservative politicians at the heart of a damaging mask procurement scandal on DW's Conflict Zone.

www.dw.com

 

[Tony Towner]

Taking the piss.

Mask scandal: 'Unforgivable violations of ethical standards' – DW – 03/11/2021

Andreas Nick, a prominent member of Germany's ruling CDU party, has strongly criticized the two conservative politicians at the heart of a damaging mask procurement scandal on DW's Conflict Zone.

www.dw.com

Germany, not EU

 

[Walshes Wolves]

Germany, not EU

Yes, but

Germany, not EU.

And your post was about UK corruption, nothing to do with Brexit.

 

[Tony Towner]

Yes, but


And your post was about UK corruption, nothing to do with Brexit.

And your entire premise for leaving the EU is because of corruption and the UK going it alone with what has been proven to be the corrupt

 

[AndyWolves]

It's a bit rich to talk about leaving the EU for corruption when most of the leaves campaign was based on lies.

I remember the fucking red bus and farages words the morning after.

 

[Walshes Wolves]

And your entire premise for leaving the EU is because of corruption and the UK going it alone with what has been proven to be the corrupt

Not entire no, but the great thing about being a sovereign country is you can vote out who you don't like. You can't do that with EU corruption.

 

[Walshes Wolves]

It's a bit rich to talk about leaving the EU for corruption when most of the leaves campaign was based on lies.

I remember the fucking red bus and farages words the morning after.

And the lies about England would be hit a lot harder than we have been? I could write pages about EU corruption, but I don't actually hate the EU, I just didn't want to be a part of it.
The inability to call out EU corruption, or criticise the lack of accountability of the EU by Remainers is laughable. I can say that Brexit hasn't done everything I wanted and some of the politicians who represented Brexit are cunts, but Remainers never admiit that Brexit wasn't anywhere as catastrophic as they were preaching. It is that inability to ever be wrong and call anyone who disagree with them morons, or stupid which says more about a very small minority of Remainers, than anything else does.

 

[BillyDee]

 

[AndyWolves]

And the lies about England would be hit a lot harder than we have been? I could write pages about EU corruption, but I don't actually hate the EU, I just didn't want to be a part of it.
The inability to call out EU corruption, or criticise the lack of accountability of the EU by Remainers is laughable. I can say that Brexit hasn't done everything I wanted and some of the politicians who represented Brexit are cunts, but Remainers never admiit that Brexit wasn't anywhere as catastrophic as they were preaching. It is that inability to ever be wrong and call anyone who disagree with them morons, or stupid which says more about a very small minority of Remainers, than anything else does.

No one is saying the EU is without fault, for me when all is considered we're better off being in the EU than outside of it, mainly for economic reasons. Picking and choosing certain things you like and don't like misses out the bigger picture - otherwise you cut your nose off to spite your face.

Brexit has meant our economy has grown slower than it should have, which means tax receipts are lower than they should have been, which means the amount of funding available for public services is less than it should have been. And so yet again the poorest in society get hit the hardest. How has Brexit benefited these people? How about the fishing communities that have been fucked over? There is a catalogue of real impacts to people who are worse off as a result of Brexit, so yes, anyone who doesn't think Brexit has had a negative impact on real people's lives will continue to be a moron in my eyes.

 

[Walshes Wolves]

There is a catalogue of real impacts to people who are worse off as a result of Brexit, so yes, anyone who doesn't think Brexit has had a negative impact on real people's lives will continue to be a moron in my eyes.

Germany doesn't have Brexit as an excuse for nearly 2 years of recession.

 

[AndyWolves]

Germany doesn't have Brexit as an excuse for nearly 2 years of recession.

Nothing to do with what I'm saying.

There are demonstrable negative impacts to people in this country which have a direct cause linked to Brexit.

Can you provide an equivalent of how Brexit has improved / enriched / some how tangibly made better?

 

[Walshes Wolves]

Nothing to do with what I'm saying.

There are demonstrable negative impacts to people in this country which have a direct cause linked to Brexit.

Can you provide an equivalent of how Brexit has improved / enriched / some how tangibly made better?

The problems in the UK started before Brexit and those problems were not addressed and still haven’t been and are probably more responsible for why Brexit happened than anything else.

 

[Walshes Wolves]

Nothing to do with what I'm saying.

It is though. You are blaming things on Brexit and Germany, which is in the EU has been in recession for nearly 2 years. They blame it on Covid and Ukraine, you blame our problems, which haven't been as bad as Germany's on Brexit. Our economy has been doing better than the EU's strongest economy.

 

[leedswolf]

Top Tory caught admitting Brexit drawback in leaked clip

In response tonight, the Tories insisted that Chris Philp was not saying the Tories did not have a plan for how to handle asylum seekers post Brexit.

news.sky.com

 

[AndyWolves]

The problems in the UK started before Brexit and those problems were not addressed and still haven’t been and are probably more responsible for why Brexit happened than anything else.

So no then?

 

[AndyWolves]

It is though. You are blaming things on Brexit and Germany, which is in the EU has been in recession for nearly 2 years. They blame it on Covid and Ukraine, you blame our problems, which haven't been as bad as Germany's on Brexit. Our economy has been doing better than the EU's strongest economy.

Im not saying the EU is some mystical place of eternal unicorns and rainbows. The argument that "well Germany are in recession and they didn't Brexit so Brexit must be fine" is ridiculous and misses out huge amounts of nuance and factors in the German economy.

I have never said all our problems are caused by Brexit either.